TERRIBLE LOD is destroying a potentially great sim

I’m on xbox and even with LOD issues I’m having heaps of fun.

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My screenshots above were with TLOD & OLOD both set to 2.000000 (in the UserCfg.opt file)
I’ve increased both these entries now to: 2.500000.

Draw distance and detail have improved further :slight_smile: with no noticable loss of performance on my stock* Dell PC:

i7-10th-gen; RTX2060 6GB GPU; 16GB main RAM)

Also: Windows 11 with Hardware-Accelerated GPU Scheduling set on, and NVIDIA Vertical Sync setting = “Fast”, capped at 75Hz (same as monitor refresh rate)

Network is: fibre-optic cable from the street to the router. Then I have gigabit Ethernet network cable connection from router to my PC.

*Only mod to the Dell PC is an active tower cooler on the CPU, and also an added Noctua rear extractor fan.

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2.0 and 2.5? Whats that comparable to when using the slider? Above the scale? =P

I was thinking about trying latest DLSS as well, since I like the sharpness of DLSS:DLAA.

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Brief description of the issue:

Its a constant claim I always post here, but the LOD issues in XBox has never gone away and really upsets me. I tried everything, did a clean reinstall with no add ONS, and it continues, my internet connection is good at 300mbps. I really don’t know what’s happening, everything looked better before middle 2022.

I really need an official explanation and a plan from the developers, we really want to fly like FS2020 and not FS2004.

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Take off from SBKP to SBSP in default A320 and clear skies, fly over SBJD and look how cities look ugly in about 2 miles and 7000 feet.

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No, I’m on series X

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I don’t remember, but before AAU1 was there, during beta becomes ok, but after AAU1 release the step was back and the issue were not solved at all.


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2.0 equals 200 on the slider, 2.5 equals 250 on the slider.

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I’ve been beta testing an incoming aircraft for a 3rd party developer, and that requires I use my PC rather than my Xbox.

I have to say, the LOD looks terrible on my PC. I was so horrified by it yesterday that I just couldn’t believe this is how it is supposed to be or has always been. I even cranked the TLOD slider to 200, and it still didn’t look much better — really.

I’ve looked at a few PC screenshots from the past and the sim looked much better before. My PC has always run the High-End graphic settings, so it isn’t like I had higher detail settings before and now don’t.

I just thought I’d give all the fellow Xboxers a sense that the issue seems to be affecting both platforms.

This active thread seems to reiterate my findings:

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So…changing the slider does the same thing? Any reason to change in the .cfg instead?

And also…I guess there would be some impact to performance, righ?

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Only reason to change it in the cfg you already mentioned: if you want to set LOD beyond what is possible in the menue, you have to do it via config.

And yes, it is the setting with the most pronounced impact on FPS and almost 100% depending on the CPU (tLOD at least)

There is a nice thread in the forums summarizing results with different LOD values

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It seems that there is a server and/or network a problem affecting certain users (not me).
Here are some screenshots I just took. I was flying over the same area as you at 7,000ft.
Ps. I am on the “West Europe” server. What server are you on?



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Those server choices have zero bearing on sim data. They are strictly Multiplayer regions.

See:

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In my experience the LOD levels on XSX are mostly fine now (tree line could be drawn a little bit farther, maybe that can be improved). The biggest problem now in my opinion, that is spreading through whole Europe, is ground texture popping in/transforming as described in this topic: Aerial ground tiles changing/popping in - #296 by theolm98

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I am also on the Xbox Series X. In my experience buildings and trees appear flat and terrain textures also look blurry. Just for a short period when Sim update 12 was still in beta, the level of detail was fantastic. The final version of SU12 ruined LOD.

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Hi, I’m on east USA but I tried others and nothing changed. Are you on Series X ??

I saw the LOD correction during AAU1 beta, later broken again

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Do you think my living region Brazil affects the streamed data? Could you investigate this please? What you from Microsoft tells about this issue?

Those were the good old days. I miss those days.

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Recently I posted requesting anti aliasing back to Xbox, I think that some anti aliasing would also help this issue. That should be a mix of improvement to do, correcting LOD issues and anti aliasing would make FS look beautiful again since it was when released on Xbox.

They gave us helicopters but broke the possibility of flying helicopters the same time. How to fly helicopters in broken VFR terrain ??

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Take a look at add on download speed. I have 300mbps but it reaches only 50 Mbps. Server streaming capabilities may be a possible reason for this issue, maybe not the only one, but may be in the mix…

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Thanks for sharing my bug link.

We’re having major issues to the point where i have stopped flying MSFS. It’s very frustrating because i would love to fly.

And it also bothers me that Asobo doesn’t consider this a bug.

I think that the best days of MSFS is behind us.

Like your screenshots over Copenhagen these look good.

Like you state in your comment, it seems that the experience people have is very different from one another. - I understand that equipment plays a role, but not anywhere close to this extend.

Also i have a high end system (purchased only for MSFS) and i have seen how it can look and run.
My system hasn’t changed. MSFS has and only to the worse.

When i fly over cities like CPH or BRU it is very obvious where trees and buildings stop. And even the buildings and trees close to me pop in or load to better graphics when i am right on top of them. It looks awful.

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