Thermals, Up & Downdrafts - Realism Update/ Airmass Simulation

I think this is one of the more interesting interview parts

(thermals on flat terrain, temperature based) 27.01.21

which is related to this:

but yeah, like we all know, still badly limited :neutral_face:

looking forward to the glider development partner introduction, then we maybe get a few more updates on this topic .

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Just catching up here - even though he was asked about thermals, Sebā€™s answer in the Dev Update was entirely about ridge lift - it seems like there isnā€™t a good understanding of the difference between the two. On a positive note it sounds like the ā€˜gliding partnerā€™ will also have input on the weather model which is great.

The Madolo+B21 AS33 glider has a carefully calibrated Netto vario - if you watch that video you can see thereā€™s no lift over the flat land, but the vario jumps into life anywhere the wind is blowing over the hills.

IMHO actually flying an aircraft with a properly calibrated netto vario is the ultimate test of the lift in the sim - I think even Asobo is talking from what their sim dev tools tell them but theyā€™ve never had/flown a suitably instrumented plane.

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I second that 100% !!!

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Itā€™s already in the issue voting thread located here if you want to vote on that too. No wind gusts regardless of how gust sliders are set. No data displayed in the "Wind Graph". Broken for PC and Xbox! - #60 by PiggyOinker

I linked this thread in that thread and think wind gusts is important too in a flightsimulator. Hope you want to vote.

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I add my voice to the OP about ridge and clouds drafts. It was a strong point to buy the sim for me when it was announced in the first aerodynamics video and it is disappointing to see it dumbed to a minimum.

Newbies are not dumb, if you explain them the real thing, they will enjoy the challenge.

So bring this important bit of realism back !

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I am in favour of as much realism as possible.

However:

Only allow people to enable realistic turbulence if they also have DAMAGE DETECTION ENABLED

We do not need hundreds of videos of silly gits flying through thunderstorms getting tossed about like a ping pong ball and bouncing off things with damage disabled.

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Over 300 votes, thank you so much guys!

We should be in the top 50 for the next dev update.

Finally we gonna get at least some kind of status update for that topic, after one year of disappointing interview statements with no real informations.

Iā€™m betting: Started/2022
Because itā€™s gonna be linked with the glider release. But who knows, if we are super lucky we gonna see some updates before the end of the year. Itā€™s been a long time since they first said they gonna reduce the limitations.

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Thats great! Hope that they just make it so we can adjust the limit how we want it and for those others who donā€™t want real thermals just switch it off in assistance options or realism settings.

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They didnā€™t include this in the dev update. Thought this had more votes than both wu europe and open doors

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That is really weird. This thread was at place 47/48 for the last few days, is still ahead and they ignore it completely.

It took a lot of work to get it where itā€™s at, we never got an real answer in so many Q&Aā€™s and now they donā€™t even list itā€¦ very disappointing :frowning:

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Dissapointed about the preliminary fixlist they posted too. No fix of weather. Not one. Wind is the most important thing in a flightsimulator. Graphics should allways come behind that in the priority i think.

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Yeah and itā€™s not even a real wish in that way. They said it themselves ā€œwe introduced these limitations because of this and that, but we gonna reduce these limitationsā€ That was one year ago.

And in the last q&a the answer was like they donā€™t even know about that stuff anymore. And now they ignore it completely in the dev update.

I feel like the glider release next year is the only chance we gonna hear about that topic, which is sadā€¦

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Yes, i think so too. Iā€™m just so dissapointed right now i donā€™t know what to write.

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Patiently waiting to see what thy come up with . hope they announce the partner soon .
Iā€™m all for a thermal setting that only includes when damage settings on realistic .

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not sure what you guys are disappointed in , we dont have realistic in any other sim. condor2 maybe close but I dont feel like iā€™m in condor when I do a task in my own glider :smiley:

Disappointed in the fact that the realism is already implemented, but limited because of casual players + no realism option.

Also disappointed that they said one year ago they would reduce these limitations, but nothing happened and every interview statement about that topic doesnā€™t really answer why.

And now on top of that they ignored this thread in the top 50 wishlist and it was clearly at place 46 or 47.

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why dont you sign up to help out then

Donā€™t quote me but I think they are working on a whole new independent weather engine that uses its own or even several cores ā€¦ if I said Metaverse would that then make any more sense?

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That would be great in the mean time they can open up the limit for us :slight_smile:

I would like to think so but I doubt itā€™s that simple.