I mean we were expecting bugs, but not to the extent that the sim has. Its ridiculous to release something in such a state.
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Yes, But not when it came out: in the meantime, we all paid for it; then, two years later, we were able to enjoy it.
In this sense, it was - indeed - a betrayal.
since the release, nothing has improved…
It’s not only bugs. It’s just really shoddy work. Like ATC saying Eff Ell 130 for Flight Level 130. Whoever coded and reviewed that must never have experienced aviation before.
At times I do wonder if they used AI to make much of this game.
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That is outright wrong.
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This is likely a side effect of using Azure Text-to-Speech and Natural Voice ™ for the accents. The LLM hasn’t been trained to speak out acronyms. Which is why FS’20 could say “Runway 25 Right” but FS’24 can only say “Runway 25 R.”
I have a thread under my username that might be of interest to you - I’m asking for the ATC to have an off-line capability so those of us who enjoyed more compliant Phraseology can reapply our Mod files against the ATC script. Right now, it’s an all or nothing with Azure.
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To go on about what smothery said, depends on what it is, lights pointing wrong ways or not working on aircraft is a simple fix and shouldn’t ever take longer than a week to fix. it’s crazy that it has. End of story no if and or buts. Now reworking all the broken missions might take them months. But the stuff they can fix faster should be fixed there is no reason for it not to be. I see lesser teams handle it just fine if they can’t they might wanna rehire
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The OP has made a great suggestion. Why are we not getting weekly fixes and improvements? What a terrible way to treat your consumer base.
I honestly do not get the feeling that this game is running on a current gen Xbox console and would never use this to showcase the console’s capabilities!
Bad performance and visuals, laggy menus, etc. Fixing these three would be a good start and the control bindings too, I can’t for the love of me get any commands to work for external cam zoom in and out (standard Xbox controller)
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They introduced new bugs 
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Im rarely a person ranting about things, I often like to nitpick, support in testing, reporting bugs (in MSFS2020 i actually reported alot to help improving the game, I gave up on that for 2024), all mostly supportive and objectively. But I cant help but speak out on this disaster of the MSFS2024 launch.
Like what is happening right now? Why are there no updates? Why do have to wait for SU1, which we dont even have a release date for!, to get any updates at all? Its not like the highest priority is improving systems and adding features, which the SUs are all about. We need bugfixes, tons of them! Its now 2 months after release and the biggest achievement is that the game loads at all. 1.2.7.0 was a decent update I have to admit, alot of fixes, BUT thats 4 weeks ago. These updates should be pushed at a minimum of once a week! If there are fixes done by a thursday, even its just one or two, push the update. Actively holding back fixes keeps people frustrated. MSFS2024 was the most dissappointing release of the last years for me. Gaming industry has fallen sooooo deeply, Im not even in a state anymore defending the devs. We all know its not the devs fault! But at the end of the day they are also the one fixing stuff. Pay them big money to equal their overtime spent these days! Gaming community can be VERY thankful when experiencing a developer/pusblisher who really cares. Yes, release was a very big ■■■■■■. You really could have turned the ship by pushing updates with fixes, alot of them, regularly. The current situation is basically the worst way of doing it. I cant see any commitment. 4 weeks without an update. Simple basic things are not working (eg. career, device settings system etc.) and we dont even have a date for SU1? Development updates are not even addressing the biggest and most frustrating things on the list. Game breaking things even pushed to SU2 (“simple” things like the PC12/24 cabin pressure bug).
Enough rant. Im still on the devs side, but honestly lost hope in MS after this release.
My simple ask is: Dont rely on SUs for bugfixes. Those have to be pushed weekly! SUs are for improvements and feature additions. Bigfixes simply cant wait!
Cheers
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It will look better when SU1 includes a lot of fixes. That’s the only reason to not give any fixes until then.
You won’t be on the devs side for much longer considering you posted your first rant 
I note that Microsoft stated that hundreds of people are working on the simulator. Great news, so at least those hundreds of people will fix the bugs quickly.
Who knows, maybe they meant hundreds of customers reporting bugs on forum and 2-3 freelance developers somewhere in India trying to do at least something 
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I have a question that I haven’t seen addressed before dealing with the completion of the project before release. How in the **** did they create that dazzling high res intro video that we all saw before purchase? Is that what they thought the game was going to be based on their perfect test conditions (which had to be hard wired access to all data instead of streaming)? If they knew that our experiences were not going to be anywhere close to that level of realism, then they had a responsibility to let potential customers know with some big disclaimer on the promo saying “this video was produced under perfect development conditions and customers should not expect this level of detail because of delays in data streaming.” Simple, honest and we’d not be where we are today.
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Trailers for games always look incredible. Sadly the games are almost never what the trailers show them to be.
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I think the problems with 2024 has made me fall in love with 2020 again. Everything just seems to be working great in 2020 at the moment and I prefer it a hundred times more than 2024. VR has been heavily neglected in 2024 which is a crying shame. I had great hopes for it but at the moment I feel its been disappointing. At least I can still enjoy 2020 whilst 2024 is being sorted out.
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Well, it is not that they have lied when they said it is actual in-game footage…
When I realized that the advertizing trailer was the actual game intro cutscene, it made me see Asobo and the people involved in a drastic different, negative, way…
Worst betrayal in decades of MSFS
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Getting back on topic. Looks like other companies within the simulator business are capable of delivering updates much faster.
Well knowing not everything is fine over there as well.
Just look at the sheer number of items on the patch notes.
And they do only have less then a quarter of people working on it.
And what do we get from MS? There will be an update in Q1 but we do not know when with 3 topics that might make it into the update. 
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CarbnFtprint. that was the selling point companys are great at doing the intro videos but the real things turns out absolutely Rubbish. I will never put my Trust in MSFS Again.. and I keep seeing positives off other people here not sure what planet some are on. i have seen enough negativitys of MSFS2024 so it all adds up.
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If I don’t like Ford, I go and buy a Toyota. If I don’t like Fallout, I go and buy STALKER. If I don’t like Nike, I go and buy Adidas. Why can’t you catch the point? I got it back in 2024, and I’m very glad about it. (I keep this account simply because I’m curious how many people still trust Asobo). Catch the point: your money is not respected on this platform. Some people compared it to Cyberpunk — well, the Poles managed to fix it, but 2020 version of you know is still rotting with bugs on consoles and PC. The first thing the developers thought about was how to quickly shove the Marketplace into 2024, while SU 1 can wait because the community keeps swallowing promises. (Don’t be offended by my comment, I’ve been disappointed myself since 2020.)
Calling MSFS2024 a beta release might be premature, as it is not yet feature complete or stable.
When all the features are present, the planes work, the career mode works and there is more stability, then yes, a beta it will be.
We are a long way off getting what we paid for and I have to be honest, I hope to get value for money from my purchase, but the jury remains out on that.
When a game is released unfinished and unstable, there is no point in getting annoyed with the publisher, developers, or testers. The only person I am annoyed with is myself for paying upfront. I have said it before, but this time I mean it, no more pre-orders.
I got my first video game in the 1970’s and in all that time, MSFS2024 is the most expensive, most incomplete and the most unstable game I have encountered.
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