To start,
~ Please quickly list your pc guts to your first message of response so we know what we are working with here.
~ VR USERS ONLY please and thank you.
- I would like to hear from only users that primarily use VR only, and please post your rig specs. Sorry for the typos that I missed.
So yeah. Whats good everyone?!
AMD Threadripper 2950X
64GB 3200
RTX 3090
3 x Crucial P5 SSD
Oculus Quest 2
OculasApp
SteamVR
Virtual Desktop
FS2020-PreDeluxe-WinStore
Well if you reading this, then you have more than likely have waited the long amount of time it took to download, even using a VPN to top out your DL speed, and have given the exe file a couple touches to see the " increase in performance" sim update. From what I had read, they rewrote 60% of the code to where as it would give an increase of upwards of 50-60% performance upgrade.
* DCS World is not an optimized game at all for VR, but from what I get in DCS in compared to FS2020 before and after sim update 5, from my own experience is that a 50 to 60 percent upgrade would have put fs2020 at par with what I get in DCS, which is 45fps min to 70-90 fps depending where my nose is pointing. *
Downloaded the WinStore update to FS2020.
Started and came upon a 22GB update (mandatory) - standard edition.
of course it was forever to download as the update was fresh and so many people DLing at the same time and such right? so after all that, I let to go through and then I restarted my PC.
Back online and executed FS2020 and this is when I started noticing the so called PERFORMANCE UPGRADE slide whistling down
the F###ing thing (fs2020) freezes so f###ing much LOL… and I don’t get he normal black text “Not Responsive” in the task manager. It turn to an orange texted “Not responsive”.
If you wait it may unfreeze, randomly it seems.
It may start freezing during the Flash Intros or during the the loading screen, or when at menu or when you are in the cockpit and either when you are getting situated in the cockpit or during flight, and not that long into a flight either. I mean it was shatty from the get go with their performance but the freezing and going not responsive for minutes at a time randomly (3 mins to over 20mins(after 20min i would term the program). ■■■■the amount of freezing. And what’s with the gpu utilization of 40-50% during installation?
It looks as thought they didnt fix the PC Render Scale as i messed with that and it made a slight improvement in visual, but…nothing changed performance wise.
I use the Quest 2, in wired and wireless modes either through the oculus app or SteamVR or opening SteamVR in Oculus Rift, or Virtual desktop. And there is a different outcome for every one of these on what I see inside my headset, because what I see in my hmd is not what my mirror is seeing as my mirror is always better looking than what my eye see inside the hmd, even in DCS. Jitters and stutters are less noticeable on the mirror (all mirrors), but inside the hmd itself, the image jitters and jutters is much more noticeable or even longer length of time.
** for DCS World I Open Oculus App, jump into Rift, open SteamVR while in Rift, but then starting DCS by the ways of the Update Utility and having the steamvr runtime in effect. (also using Process Lasso). This gives me, so far the smoothest and best image . Oh and I also have 0.5 in the DCS world in the VR tab section under Pixel Density, and then running the SteamVR Render scale at 500% ( and even 500% in CRS after that.
Just using the Oculus App and in Rift, when I am in VR in FS2020, it feels as if I am traveling through clear gelatin, or looking around in a pool of clear gelatin when looking around the cockpit.
SteamVR seems a lil’ bit more stable as in a stable image, but stuttery and jitters and jutters still.
Virtual Desktop and opening SteamVR inside of that and then launching the game through VD was the best that i could get before the Sim Update 5 . it gasve me the smoothest and clarity with minial jutters. NOT LIKE THAT ANYMORE. now its all shatty.
Virtual Desktop with the Oculus runtime, and not having steam vr launched, gave me the same results as with Oculus linked did before.
Using Oculus Air link…in Rift…hor-ri-ba-lia. Garbage.
Now after the Sim Update 5, Its almost it feel as if I’m back at the beginning of when these “simulator” came out. The Draw distance in VR is a joke. Scenery appears to be downgraded, Color too, even after manual cache in an area of choosing. TAA in VR is does not seem to exist in VR.
Before the update the best i could get was using VD and using SteamVR inside of the that using the Steam runtime and not on oculus runtime. Before I updated I was only "ok…finally “playable VR” " with what I was getting which was about 32-34fps on average in fs2020 it had finally became stable enough to handle the scenery and cockpit together, I only would get a jut every time I would roll the aircraft or focus of a building as I roll, of course there’s going to be that jutter a the new scene image renders, but it was fine. when just flying around normal and checking out the sites. After so many many months, it had finally gotten to the point to where I wanted to fly in FS2020 rather than just jumping back into DCS.
…then they went and did this.
" Hey Customers! How are you? Great!
Blah blah promise. Blah blah blah promises, promise promise promise blah promises blah blah promise. blah blah promise promise “60% performance upgrade” promise blah blah. Blah rewote 60% of the games core blah blah. Blah “Vr Performance Upgrade” promise blah promise blah blah…" and ah so on.
…And gave me what I “upgraded” to yesterday. (?)
Now no matter how i go about getting into fs2020 in VR… its all shatty. different types of shat in every different way I go about it. My most enjoyable days of this sim was last month after waiting soo long of waiting, to get what I was getting, stability and experience wise. Now I’m back at the shatty beginning again.
Where is this performance upgrade promise? where is also the promise of a VR upgrade that was suppose to happen? IS down UP. AND right is circle>>>? When did i slip in past the looking glass?
Also…Is this a supposed to be a “simulation” or a “game”? Is this a “game” of a simulation? I though it was suppose to be a Simulation like the rest have been before , at least to their times. This game or sim seems still in an alpha or beta phase.
And this is what little bit I have experienced so far after 6+hrs of downloading and trying the sim yesterday (7.27.2021). Just me.
WHAT ARE YOU GETTING NOW IN VR and HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT IT?
VR ONLY USERS PLEASE.
Post your PC and equipment and let others now what your experience is and how you go about achieving of what you got going on on your system so maybe we can find a trick maybe?
