Hi guys,
What are your thoughts in terms of performance of the newly announced AMD 5950X vs intel’s 10900K.
Do you think it benefits the sim?
Have to wait for actual benchmarks by Gamers Nexus and others. 
from what I’ve seen (and awaiting independent benchmarks) there doesn’t seem to be much between them, so it’s the obvious choice to go for the cheapest one.
Seriously though, you don’t need that many cores for flight sim. a 5600X or 5800X should be perfect for MSFS, and better for your wallet.
Yeah ofcourse awaiting benchmarks is the best.
Oh boy I’m so curious if AMD will run the sim better than Intel, but regarding the specs I’m not that sure.
But I’m a real noob when it comes to pc parts and what not.
I’m just looking for the best parts to build a pc to run this beautiful simulator as SMOOOOOTH as butter:grin:
if you want the best of the best, I hope you have a thick wallet 
Honestly though, there are loads of people spending loads of money on 10900K systems with an RTX3090 (and then complain that MSFS isn’t loading their systems to 100% on both CPU and GPU). I’m guessing those people might go for the 5950X next month.
The 5950x will be useless, because you don’t need all those cores for gaming, and especially with FS2020 which only use 4 at the moment.
A 5600x or 5800x will be far enough, and yes, better than the 10900k from what they showed.
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Hahahaha I think you might be right 
I will wait for the first benchmarks to come out before I decide what to go for.
Sounds interesting, I‘ll check that out, thanks.
I hear this coming up a lot, but you need to clarify if you mean 4C/8T or 4C/4T. People with a 4C/4T CPU are struggling a lot. Might be the case that MSFS doesn’t really utilize more than 8 threads, but 4 threads is not enough.
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I guess I will need a 5950x. My working configuration is a Linux host running a gaming Windows VM running Flight Sim. I see CPU bottlenecks on a single thread and the games sometimes freezes for a few seconds when one CPU thread rattles at 100% on the 3900x. Either the game needs more optimization or the single thread performance of the 3900x is not up to the task. AMD claims a 20% bump in IPC between Zen 2 vs 3. That might help with his game if that claim is true
With Proxmox? Or? 
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Already been said that you dont need more than 6 or 8 (probably 8) cores. Better to have 8 cores at 5.3ghz than 20 at 5.0ghz
No hardware can compensate for terrible coding… IMO
Coming from an 8700k @ 5Ghz, how do AMD CPUs overclock? All I’m looking for is 5GHz on at least a single core with AIO water cooling.
You don’t need to chase 5ghz on AMD. A lot of people put value in the magical 5ghz when they come from Intel.
Clock speed is only useful as a perf measure within a generation of the same brand of CPU. This is because performance is actually clock speed * IPC (instructions per clock) + other perf optimizations in the CPU. To drive this point home, a 2ghz processor could be significantly faster than a 5ghz CPU if it had much higher IPC and optimizations.
In short:
5ghz is an arbitrary number.
Real performance is measured in benchmarks.
1mhz on Intel is on a different scale than 1mhz on AMD.
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very well said.
I currently run an R5 3600 with 4.2GHz on all cores.
Apparently the R5 5600X will run up to 4.6GHz, with an IPC increase of 19% over the 3600. Let’s (theoretically) say I can get that 5600X to run at 4.6GHz all core, it would perform 30% better(9.5% on the clocks, 19% on the IPC).
Of course I’ll wait for independent benchmarks, but this looks like a really solid upgrade across the board.
Yeah exactly thats what I think too.
The better IPC with a bigger cache would mean in theory that this cpu will be a better fit for the sim right?
Ok I know and understand that the 16 core chip is a bit of an overkill regarding that the sim only uses a max of 8 cores.
But maybe after a few patches the sim utilizes more cores, I hope so at least and then this amd cpu will be the better option to run it past 50 fps on 4K res.
Fingers crossed 
The honest unbiased answer to that question: Wait for the benchmarks 
The game as it stands right now heavily favors strong single core performance. The strongest single core consumer CPU on the market now is the 10900k, so that is the best you can get at the moment for MSFS 2020. It’s still a stutterfest even on that CPU though.
The new AMD CPUs claim to take the crown in single core performance and by the Cinebench result they posted, this looks to be true. How much that translates into MSFS performance, only benchmarks will tell.
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I’m pretty happy with my Ryzen 9 3900x, but I am intrigued by the new 5900x. Maybe next year I’ll move up.