Tree Draw Distance / LOD Issues

I had access to the Alpha, my tag was just missing when I posted. My point was not that the problem doesn’t exist, just that it needs to be explained in a manner that easy to understand and with evidence. Without that we have no chance of getting an improvement.

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The three things I can see that is wrong with your second image is that:-

  1. Its failing to draw trees in the lower part of the scene.
  2. Its drawing a mix of conifer and deciduous over an area that the missing tree section clearly shows should be deciduous only.
  3. The deciduous trees are a bit too light and are not the dark green colour that summer trees in full leaf full of Chlorophyll are, again as shown in the section that is missing trees.

The trees need more work and Asobo should acknowledge this in my opinion.

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What more evidence do we need to provide than the two pictures I posted above? Surely it looks obvious.

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It also does not seem to be caused by a lack of hardware. My CPU and GPU are way underutilised at present - CPU ~50% (even the main thread/core is not maxed), GPU ~40% - with most settings on ULTRA, yet the LOD issue is obvious.

If my system was being thrashed within an inch of its’ life I could understand if the scenery was lacking detail.

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The Tree LOD for sure has gotten worse. I am now noticing it. I have the tree settings to Ultra and its like I am running it on LOW.I remember back in the ALPHA it the draw distance being superb with no noticeable performance hit.

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@BilingualHarp7
@CBCDES
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You might want to really read the topic I’ve linked to above as this explains exactly what is the actual bug (there is a bug).

More specifically to get started:
[08OCT2020 Update]

Then to further the topic, the update I’ve just posted:
[16OCT2020 Update]

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Ah I fail to mention they appear as you get closer. That’s what I have been noticing.

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I do agree there was a marked decrease in visual fidelity from the release to now, but it was in favor of performance. This is fine, but for those looking for more fidelity, there should be an option to return the detail to what it was before.

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This might be true, but there is also a bug I’ve now documented which is certainly not expected (see above).

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The bug does not only concern the trees, there are also the buildings which are impacted, when I fly over Paris the landscape is ugly and it constantly twinkles and the buildings are not as well detailed as in the Alpha version and however I am in Ultra mode.
I have a lot of screenshots of the Alpha version but not sure that I am allowed to post them for comparison.
Where does the vote take place ?

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This would be a good starting point:

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Hello, thanks for your help, I will test the sim with the attached files :slightly_smiling_face:

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Birnam Wood of Shakepearean fame in reality vs. in MSFS 2020 v1.9.5.0 - still way too many trees, pretty overdone vs. reality: Blackshark.ai - Too many trees, in too many wrong places

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What happened to this game/sim… used to look so much better.

The lod distance for scenery is terrible now.

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we need proper viewing distances.
even X-Plane and P3D draws night lighting for example from buildings further.
It takes away quite alot from the immersion

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Buildings on high or ultra?

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High by accident. I normally always use ultra on every setting & flew the same route earlier. There’s barely any difference. More importantly to me the LOD draw distance & sharpness is so small on it’s highest setting that short distances look flat, low-res & slightly blurry. Nowhere near how the game was at launch & advertised. Even in photogrammetry area’s with a stable 200mb connection, it’s the LOD draw distance that’s the problem.

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There is certainly a significant difference between high and ultra especially above 3000ft.I found too many buildings on high missing the higher you go.
You do not notice a huge difference between the two at very low altitudes.
Agreed was better at launch.Its bugged right now.Not sure how soon we’ll see a fix.

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in general, tree textures are substantially degraded as well. why do we get nothing but loss of quality with each update released ? i’m afraid this week’s update is going to keep doing so… sim has started to be not so enjoyable.

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I can’t look at this anymore! it’s too bad! all settings are ultra! the server is connected, bing cards are also connected, it does not look like at the start, and this problem is not for everyone, I watched the stream yesterday from a random person, everything is super clear, a good picture, but I have at least! reinstalled the game and windows, it did not help! the desire to play disappears

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