Trimming issues

Hi everyone,

I somehow have massive problems with the trimming. I’m using the X52 from Saitek and in FSX I always put the timing on a rotation axis. When I had the wheel in the center position, there was no trimming and when I turned the wheel up a bit, there was a little bit of trimming. If I turned the wheel to the end in one direction, I trimmed 100% in that direction. This way I could always align the machine well.

With FS2020 it is like this: if I put the trimming on the wheel, I have to turn the wheel almost to the end and then turn it back to the 0-position immediately. As soon as I turn the wheel in one direction and leave it there, it trims further and further. I almost never get it right to keep the machine straight.

I’m sorry for my explanation, but I’m not a real pilot and maybe I’m doing something wrong, but as I said, in FSX it went pretty well.

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I have the same controller, but my trim is on the hat next to the covered button on top of the stick. I can’t control the trim at all… I want to map the trim to the slider button on the throttle arm, but I can’t…
Currently the rotational axis has the mixture mapped to it, and I’m quite happy with that…
I was hoping to get someone else’s profile that I could try… quite a frustration at present as I am having to fly the stick constantly.

I have the X52 and trimming works in the Cessna 172 using the hat next to the covered button it needs a fair bit of clicking from time to time but once you get used to it you can trim relatively quickly.

By default the trimming was next to covered “safe” button as well. But it feels really strange, due the trimming in real life seems to be a rotating wheel and not two buttons. Like I said, I mapped the trimming to the round weel next to the “i” - information button on the throttle but I need to turn it completly into one direction until it start trimming and then I need to bring it back to center to stop trimming. Its like I keep pressing the trimming buttons all the time instead of “trim a little bit more” while I rotate the wheel.

It’s possible it dose not support an analogue control.

That is what I fear. Does anyone know if that is just a bug or not planned at all?

I have the X52 also and I don’t think it’s a bug so to speak. The trim is a up/down button input not a scaled slider (1-100 sort of thing).

I may be wrong and would appreciate someone qualified confirming, but I think the trim wheel on a plane goes more than 360 degrees. On the X52, there is no wheel that does this (other than the comms wheels I guess).

Interessting Point - but if I fly with the outside view I can see the minimum and maximum trimming within the box.

What does the green area inside the box mean? Do I have to adjust the trimming in that area in order tingly straight ?

Not sure to be honest I fly inside so I trim until level based on power etc.

Trim on a real plane depends on the aircraft. Some like the older Cessnas have trim wheels (I don’t think that they turn even 360 degrees) and others have an electric trim switch. The sim models the electric trim switch, so that it behaves like a motor switch: on or off in either of two directions. If you assign the trim to the POV switch and use it, you can see the trim wheel turn - slowly.
IRL I can’t remember using more than three pulls on the trim wheel for pitch and only a fraction of a pull on the rudder trim. The biggest problem in sims is that you have no feel for an out-of-trim situation. IRL you simply trim out the force on the controls - either before the controls require it (when turning base, adding flaps and commencing descent, add trim) or after wrestling the aircraft into the proper attitude and then trimming out the force on the controls.

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Thanks for confirming Convex.

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Reviving this since it’s driving me insane tbh :slight_smile:
I have the elevator trim on the elevator trim axis (-100 to +100). I’ve put it on a slider.

What happens and it’s badly implemented is that once you disengage the autopilot and you even touch that slider control on the joystick (i have on one of the wheel on the throttle) the trim just JUMPS to that level - there’s no smooth travel to that setting - like there is in X-plane which allows for very smooth trimming.

They absolutely need to look into this, using a slider-type control is far more natural than using buttons to adjust the trim and it should smoothly transition to that setting (a.k.a. have a max turn speed inside the game).

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Having problems to adjust trimming as well. Using saytek trim wheel. No matter if i configure the axis for trimming, i can only use buttons to actually trim, because it wont work at all using the axis. In fact, wont event move…

Gee…

Same issue with trim on CH Eclipse Yoke. I’ve tried mapping pitch trim to trim wheels on yoke and to buttons for incremental nose up/nose down and nothing works. I have to use my mouse to move the virtual trim wheel in the cockpit…Cessna.
I did read somewhere that it’s a bug.
Hope they fix it.

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It works for me, but I have to rotate the wheel to its end (in either one direction) and keep it there. Then the trimming starts until I bringt the wheel back to the center position. Also it get more and more faster as long I keep it in the end position. If you fly from the 3rd person view, you can see the trimming in the box on the right bottom corner. It is really strange.

But you are sure your configured the trim axis, not the incremental up/down? Please post a screenshot of your controller configuration. There is also a slider displayed that shows the current position of the axis. Move the axis and look if the slider changes accordingly.

The weird thing is that when configuring the axis, you can actually see the bars moving up and down. But it wont work after you click apply and get to the airplane cabin… Only button control for trimming working here…

Using an X56 rotary control seem to work as expected for me.

One day a little light bulb is going to get switched on by one of these flight sim devs.

That light bulb will illuminate a simple option: AUTO TRIM.

When that happens I might actually start enjoying virtual piloting.

It’s absence from MSFS - a flight sim aimed at complete novices as much as experts - is totally baffling.

In regards to the issue the OP was experiencing, as marccreal pointed out, it sounds like you have used the wrong control binds.

If you are using a dial for trim rather than buttons make sure you use the Axis binds, ie; ‘Elevator Trim Axis (-100 to 100%)’ and not ‘Elevator Trim Down (Nose Down)’ and ‘Elevator Trim Up (Nose Up)’ which are for digital inputs.

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