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ISSUE DESCRIPTION
Description of the issue: Not an Issue - An IMPROVEMENT - Significant Improvement!
Finally! We have a proper functioning turboprop model with actual BETA (No - Beta Does NOT only mean Reverse… BETA Also includes the forward GROUND RANGE of the propeller.
I can only hope that all of the turboprop models follow this functionality of the propeller. The only hangup is the detent between GROUND IDLE and REVERSE. Typically this is a “soft detent” vs a “gate”. There will typically be some sort of tactile feedback (not always), but the going from ground idle to reverse normally does not require the actuation of any sort of a trigger or gate.
For example, in the ATR, the triggers on the front of the power levers are to go from FLIGHT IDLE into ground range. Not from GI (Ground Idle) to reverse. In the King Air the levers are LIFTED (physically pulled outwards from the quadrant) and pulled back over the FLIGHT IDLE gate into Ground Range. I cannot speak to the other aircraft as I have not flown them personally.
Additionally, a Condition Lever on a PT-6 adjusts the IDLE SPEED ONLY. In the King Air, 802, C-208, and I would imagine the SkyCourier would be the same. The Condition Levers are indicated as LOW IDLE, and HIGH IDLE. It’s exactly in the name… IDLE. If the engines are at takeoff thrust, or for that matter, anywhere above the HIGH IDLE setting, pulling the condition lever to LOW IDLE does NOTHING. It will not drop the engine Ng or Torque AT ALL until the power levers are set back below the Ng that the Condition Levers are requesting.
As an example, in the 802 (my current type flown). With the condition lever in RUN (or LOW IDLE) the Ng is at around 56% - When pushed up to FLIGHT (or HIGH IDLE) the Ng accelerates to around 68%. If I apply power and reduce the condition lever back to RUN. The Ng WILL NOT CHANGE until I pull the power lever back to the Idle Gate. (Not available in the 802 due to propeller RPM restrictions).
I can’t speak to the Twin Otter specifically, but some early PT-6 aircraft simply had RUN or FUEL OFF as well. No adjustment of the idle Ng was possible.
The numbers are reflective (within a couple of percent) of any PT-6 with a LOW / HIGH IDLE CONDITION LEVER setting.
The CONDITION LEVER Logic is different for the PW-100 series of engines (CL-415 - ATR, etc).
On the ground it does very little, other than feather and unfeather the propeller, or cut-off fuel to the engine. In flight it behaves as more of a Propeller RPM control. So this logic is correct.
Did you experience this issue before you joined the Beta? No
If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue: All Turboprop Models
[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue? n/a
FREQUENCY OF ISSUE
How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)? Flight Model Functionality Request
REPRODUCTION STEPS
Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:
- Examine Turboprop Engine Models to Replicate Ground Range and Flight Range from CL-415 style of propeller functionality.
- Examine Condition Lever Functions in PT-6 Based Models
YOUR SETTINGS
If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.
What peripherals are you using, if relevant: TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Pendular Pedals, Honeycomb Bravo Quadrant, HOTAS WartHog
[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? NO
[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? RTX4090
[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share? Asus Z13 Tablet
MEDIA
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