Virpil just stepped up to the plate!

From an email I got today:

"We hope you are well! We are reaching out to you today regarding your pending VIRPIL Controls order which includes a standard Constellation ALPHA Grip.

Unfortunately we are encountering an extended lead time with this grip, however our metal construction Constellation ALPHA Prime Grip is more readily available thanks to our new manufacturing lines at our Lithuanian based HQ facility.

We would like to upgrade your order to the ALPHA Prime Grip, free of charge, so that we can process your order as quickly as possible allowing you to enjoy your new VPC gear sooner!"

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Very nice, I could never understand why people made such a big deal about metal sticks until I bought a cheap second hand Winwing Orion F16 grip and base, wow they really are a thing to be held. Luck you

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Virpil’s customer service felt very personal. Good people working there for sure.

Pricey products but well worth the cost, I paired my Alpha Prime stick with their WarBRD base and I’m very happy with it.

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Yup, hard to beat Virpil. I have their throttle and it’s a work of art…a very functional work of art.

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Exciting news in my Inbox today!

Five weeks from order to delivery.

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I ordered the same system as yours. If you have time, let us know your first impressions once you have it set up!

Trust me, I will! :wink:

Status update:

I assembled the CM3, Alpha Prime, and desk mount. It took a little work, but overall the process is easy, and the quality of the design, manufacturing, and ease of adjustment is exemplary - as expected.

*Replacing the springs can be done without disassembling the base. I swapped the default medium for the included soft springs. I plan to buy some Nygel to replace the grease on the springs. I’ll also Nygel the clutches.

*Changing cams requires taking off the bottom plate, removing the top screw with the spring that connects to one end of the cam arm, and loosening the two screws holding the cam in place. Easy.

*Removing the springs and cams to create a ‘dead stick’ requires removing the guts from the shell. Not hard, especially since the USB/AUX connectors are on a small daughterboard that easily unplugs from the unit. Nice.

I thought about doing the ‘Dead Stick’ thing, but decided against it, because I also want to use it as a joystick for fast jets. I installed a no-center cosmosim cam, and am experimenting with spring/clutch tension. Because I don’t have to disassemble anything to change either one, it will easy to switch between helicopter and jet. It won’t be as good as ‘Dead Stick’ for rotorcraft, but a good compromise can be achieved.

The long desk mount and 200mm extension were easy to install and mount, and put the Alpha Prime in perfect position. But the desk mount pushes the base away from the desk a LOT. It’s necessary to get full gimbal travel, but I’ll need to be really careful getting in and out of my chair. The cockpit got a lot more cramped.

I also found that I need to remove my yoke, even if I end up offsetting the cyclic to the right. Otherwise the grip hits the yoke when I move it to the upper left corner. Not a big deal, since the yoke is easy to remove.

I think I’m going to leave the joystick mounted on the right - it feels fine there, and mounting it between my knees pushes me too far away from the desk, making it a long reach to the rudder pedals (I could move them, but I don’t want to have to do that) and also making it a long reach to the keyboard mouse, and other peripherals on the desk. Again, a compromise that will be just fine.

I downloaded the software, connected the base, did the suggested firmware update FIRST, and calibrated the axes and identified the buttons. I didn’t bother modifying the LED’s, but of course I probably will later.

This is my cockpit right now (forgive the filth… :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:)
The yoke will stay in place until I fly a fast jet or a helicopter. Two thumbscrews hold it in place under the desk.

Tomorrow I’ll work on the collective.

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Thanks, much appreciated! One question: why is there a difference in procedure between changing springs/cams and removing them? Isn’t changing the same as removing the old and inserting the new? So, why is the process of removing them more (rather than less) complicated than replacing them? Hope that makes sense…

If you mean removing the springs and cams to create a ‘dead stick’ gimbal, this video will explain it better than I can.

You’ll see that replacing the springs is super easy, replacing the cam plates is a bit more work (but not hard.) But removing the cams is a lot more complicated, requiring you to remove the sealed bearings that hold the cam swingarms in place.

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I really really wish they’d produce a simple left handed grip (like the WarBRD) to fly ULs and other (mostly European) GA aircraft that have the throttle on the right. There are many different yokes out there as well as fighter jet joysticks. But no-one has made a joystick suitable for GA aircraft, as far as I can see.

I would even pay more for that!
I’d still need the coolie hat for controlling the views (no VR) but flying a Sting S4, Robin DR.400 or Diamond DA40 with that massive Constellation Alpha grip with all those buttons just feels wrong.

That would be a nice option.

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Well HECK!

I done gone and fergetted to buy the MonsterTech chair mount for my collective.

I vaguely remember researching it, and telling myself to order it when I ordered the Virpil gear. Did I? Nope. So helicopters will have to wait a little longer to get airborne.

That said, the VPC Rotor Base Plus is pretty amazing. Can’t wait to mount it to my chair. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Don’t mess with the LEDs in the firmware. Best thing to do is download the VPC Link Tool to configure your LEDs utilizing the available telemetry from MSFS via simconnect.


Extruded aluminum is a wonderful medium for making modifications.

Thanks for the tip.

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