We have to criticize but we cant always be so harsh

Have a look… solved does not mean fixed but handled by the team…

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Thank you.

I’ve been a dev myself, and emphatize with Asobo having an internal workflow and tools not synced to the external tools they have to contend with.

I guess, for the general public, changing the wording from “Solved” to “Acknowledged” would go a long way towards not needing to read the FAQ. A tooltip over Solved or a canned but explicit email response would do as well. Wishful thinking from my part :slight_smile:

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Never will take their money for job! Also I must say I’m not so good for that.

I can imagine that pure (in other side very experienced programmer) programmer then see to what problematic he step :smiley: Not possible! try imagine thousands of code lines, sources, referencies, pointers, casts and other important things to be IN. Never! And Community pressure is high, also Manager, Boss, my friend in company is waiting for my implememtation because he can’t continue his :smiley: I can easy imagine that chaos…

For me, my complaints have been harsh and for good reason. No hot fixes, no hot fixes, no hot fixes. Got a problem they created, too bad wait 30 days.

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I tried yet another flight last night, this time with the Citation, to see if I could do a simple Flight Plan, after reading many posts by users who say they are able to use Autopilots successfully… I am familiar with Autopilots, maybe not as familiar with FMC’s but I did not need to use the FMC… Kind of a VFR flight but using Altitude, Heading, Nav functions. Everything worked up to a point, then for no reason I couldn’t switch the Autopilot back on after switching it off for a while. Finally got it working again and then the pitch went way up and I climbed at a ridiculous rate, had to trim down and barely got control of the plane… Next time I switched the AP/Nav on to get back on course and the plane banked severely to the point where I almost did a barrel roll.

So to those who say the are able to fly IFR, I really have to wonder. I know we all have different systems/hardware/controllers but, aside from graphics or performance differences due to hardware, I don’t see how anyone can get around these anomalies.
I have now given up on trying to enjoy anything but the simplest VFR without even filing a flight plan- too frustrating and annoying. I agree with the title of this post but, I can’t lie about the fact that this is, literally, the most buggy, least complete software of any type I have downloaded /purchased in the pat dozen years or so.

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@ Roadspider

Look,

don’t take this as attack but sim is already some time here and you had enough time to understand that users have thousands different problems each one :slight_smile: it’s now simply impossible prepare general Patch/Update for all that will functional FOR ALL :slight_smile:

also I’m that one who flies IFR without problems :wink:

Yes of course its buggy…I remember back in the days when FSX launched when the performance was terrible till service pack 1 was introduced and that was it…But this Sim is extremely more complex, I am not trying to excuse anything or anyone but except from the people who may get crashes out of nowhere the rest of us can still enjoy several other parts of the Sim and leave the others while we still wait for fixes… I am still getting enjoyment from the Sim and I am patient for the fixes…they will come at some time…

I believe you and I am not a computer/programming expert.

Expert?

can I offer my certificates to you?

Ha! I was just saying that I don’t understand the reasons that some systems (like yours) are working better with avionics than other systems.
I just want a flight sim that works- BASIC MANDATORY things like pitch, autopilot, ATC accuracy… for everyone. The only difference should be in performance. Better, more high-end, systems will of course get better FPS. Better GPU’s will of course get better graphics. That is true for ANY simulation. But the other stuff should be the same for everyone- this is the first time I have read on a forum, that something like Autopilot works on some systems but not on others. That seems like a very bad error in testing.

Agree, understand to you.

But check again that my post about (not attack attempt) :wink: it’s very easy to understand.

try ask them if they give asnwer to you after which you’ll be satisfied…

Yes,
I understand you and your posts are never “attacking” . I appreciate them. We both want the same thing- consistent, stable performance and flight functions/

Again I say- I have seen software with “bugs” but never with so many major ones, after 2 big patches especially.

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Really understand pls,

I think no one can help you, also Asobo. try ask them if they help you with this issue. They must do one tactic, prolong all, promis Patches, …

i’m realist, I feel that my ‘end’ with functionality is also near, it’s simply question of time with this ‘product’…

Great point about FSX. I recall crashing to desktop over and over and over and over, to the point I reverted to FS2004 until SP1 came along. Most issues were addressed by the time Acceleration was released, but how long did that take? I honestly do not recall. By 2010 - four years after initial release of FSX - the sim was pretty stable. Still had issues, but at least you could complete an IFR flight from beginning to end. No matter what you did hardware-wise though, performance was never great. I got tired of chasing it.

What I have noticed in six short weeks is the continuous improvement in frame rate and CPU/GPU workload. Temps have dropped because of it, so my computer no longer sounds like a hovercraft. I regularly get mid 40s now, and as I type this note flying out of KTVL my frame rate is above 60, even drawing those thousands of trees.

I’d say Asobo is doing what they can, in an orderly manner. Four years from now? The title will have full implementation of VR and - I would guess - be very stable. Plus, third party devs will have given us all sorts of great additional bits and pieces for the sim.

How much fun will we be having then? :smile:

October 2006 FSX was released. October 2007 Acceleration pack was out. By then performance was much better than launch. I still had some minor issues, my graphic sliders were more keen on the medium side, traffic was almost on zero but I had a good time…Imagine then when the idea of a forum was not a general concept what would be said about the FSX issues…everyone was mostly struggling on their own…at least me…

I had no major issues with FSX when it came out the Accel pack made it faster for me. But even the release version right out of the box you could fly from point A to point B without CTD’s and all the other goodies we have in this. The way 2020 is now 1/2 the planes and features work for squat.

Correct. FS9 was similar (and that was 16 years ago!). Patches were released but, right out of the box, all planes worked and all systems, including ATC, worked. Some may say that the ATC wasn’t “real-world” enough, and 2d cockpits weren’t "“real-world” enough, but everything worked. You could fly VFR or IFR with any aircraft and know what to expect. But in those days testing had to be more thorough because it was sold on CD, not download.

As I’ve said in other threads here, the only part of MSFS2020 that is an improvement (in the original release and, for some, current version) is the scenery/visuals. In general, most of the the actual “flight Sim” part is a step backwards. That is really inexcusable, although I have confidence it will get fixed. I just don’t understand when someone posts that “…all flight sims sims start out like this” , etc…

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That’s a fair point. I started (to get serious about it) with FS98 but had let my interest lapse somewhat until I heard good things about FS2004. In some ways, FS2004 remains my favorite. Still have an XP MCE powered machine that (amazingly!) stills boots and runs FS2004 just fine. I have MS Combat Sim loaded on that one too. I have hundreds of dollars of payware aircraft, with some of the early study level models from A2A: B-17 and B-29 come readily to mind.

FSX - once SP1 and Acceleration came along - got better. By the time I lost interest in that sim it was 2012-13 or so, three or four years after Microsoft fired Aces Game Studios. It was disheartening to say the least.

Glad Microsoft is back with a solid partner in Asobo. But even they agree that it is - without any doubt - a work in progress. It cannot be compared to “the old days.” The scope of this attempt is so much greater than anything done before - and at the dawn of VR becoming a mature technology - that it seems fair be patient while glitches and goofs get ironed out. I don’t feel “cheated” in any way: quite the opposite in fact.

And here’s a reality check: sixteen years ago the cell phone pictured below was “cutting edge.”

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Good points. Yes, we have come a long way! And I too am excited about where this will go. But so far, even though you are correct that" the scope of this attempt is so much greater than anything done before" the only part that got released that shows that “scope” and how far we’ve come is the visuals. I sure wish the simulation of the planes and systems had gotten the attention that the visuals did and when they do, watch out! For now, it’s patience for us old timers…

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Thats right! Those days were different because FSX for instance was sold on 2 dvds and the internet speed back then was zero in comparison with today…I would need six seven months or even a year to download the gigs I have already downloaded for MFS2020… So they needed a pretty solid product on release… The days are different and the product we have today is, I guess,ahead of its time in terms of technology…
Patience…keep reporting…and we will get there…