I find it hard to believe that they have (maybe) created this mess just because of the dead sea? I just had a flight over there but the weather was clear so I couldn’t compare the clouds there with the one here in Belfast, but I mean screwing a game for such a tiny tiny area in the world? and why there is no communication at all from the devs?
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I don’t realy know. Can’t test the live weather there either because of the clear sky there. I only assume it’s because of that. Why should the clouds be below ground level if it was not because of that? The clouds never are located under ground level. In the sim they are. That we know for sure.
you never know, there is a theory called (Hollow earth) it even has weather 
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Yeah, maybe they want to simulate that too 
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Exactly, this is what I was always wishing. I loved ActiveSky in FSX, and instead of locking them out, Asobo should recognize and embrace their talent the same way they embraced Working Title.
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I thought ActiveSky redraws clouds after a weather update? It’s not a dynamic weather model. What MSFS tries to accomplish is way more advanced. Blending the METAR with a real weather model is hard but i think they will succeed.
If only they didn’t use the live build to test the system. They should have a development build for the experimenting i think.
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Active Sky did a good job in FSX. But like any metar-based weather engine, it is very limited. I think they should have stuck with dynamic weather generation and improved it further.
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I like the dynamic weather too but now it seems they want to go from that because we as community requested it. I think it’s real hard to manage if METAR says overcast and meteoblue says clear sky. In that case METAR needs to inject the weather and that will always feel static and stretched out if not properly made in a dynamic way. Active sky devs has worked with those things in many years and are good at it.
I wish they never implemented METAR, instead focusing on improvements of the predicton and maybe add things to it to make the predictions better and then reoport the weather that is happening correct in ATC/ATIS. And then make the sim do the METAR reports of the weather that is happening in the sim instead. Like it’s an own world we live in while we fly. Not compare it with real world weather.
The idea of it was sound though. METAR based islands of weather, with the predictive model smoothly blending the spaces between them. Instead we have this hard transition that can be quite jarring.
I had one yesterday where I was skirting around this huge storm front, using NEXRAD to keep my distance. I spotted at gap in the cloud layers to fly through so went through it. As I passed through I could see another cloud bank probably 10-15 miles away that looked similarly, but slowly melted away to nothing. The ground based fog/mist faded downwards into the ground. I immediately paused the sim, switched to the drone camera then detached it so I could fly away, back in the direction I came from. I was expecting the weather to revert except it didn’t. The transition was one way, indicating to me that it isn’t just a proximity thing for where the METAR weather phases in, as in theory it should phase out again, but didn’t.
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I think the mist you see on ground is the clouds is set at wrong altitude. They are underground. And one thing too i notice is that the clouds may dissapear near airports with METAR that reports clear sky and meteoblue reports clouds there, I think that is when we see those strange looking towering clouds. It’s often clear sky above us and those towering clouds around us.
It should be very thick layer overcast weather instead of those towering clouds that METAR tries to remove. But METAR is maybe right it should be overcast there but a prediction says something else.
It’s realy tricky to actually prove this because we can’t know for sure what is happening. But those towering clouds is not realistic if it’s not a thunderstorm going on there. I have not seen those type of clouds even if it has been thunderstorms before in the sim.
And if meteoblue report clear sky and METAR does not we can see those circles of low injected clouds,fog and haze. Look real bad in my opinion.
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I have to admit that I’m pretty mad that the metar-down-to-the-single-digit-wind-direction-faction got their complaints heard and we’re back at last-gen flight simulator levels in regards to weathert system depiction. Why do people have to check the current real world weather state to form any conclusion about what’s “realistic or not” inside a simulator?
Why do people want the weather in-sim to be like the current weather at any point x?
I simply don’t get it and I’ll explain why I think I don’t get it.
When people complain about the weather is not real, not as real as it gets, far from what’s outside my window etc. I think often times two very basic but fundamental things are mixed.
A) The weather as it is currently at a given point &
B) Realistic weather
Realistic weather, however, is in case of a flight simulator NOT the weather at a given point X right now.
Realistic weather in the actual sense of the word is a weather system that is global, highly dynamic, continous, influenced by thousands of factors, with larger and smaller weather phenomena sometimes stretching thousands of miles, sometimes only occuring in a very local combination of these factors. It’s a system that rarely is static or uniform, with huge variations even at the local scale from one minute to the next, but always in a more or less fluid state. In a sense it’s a living organism stretching the globe. Like you experience outside.
So people are complaining about that the weather is not what nature shows to them at a given point X and simultanously throwing the concept of “realistic” weather over board. What a joke.
What I think we need is a reporting system in-sim that allows for getting information about the current weather at a given point in-sim about the forecasted weather model like real world metar, atis, taf, awos etc… to use it for your flight planning in order for people NOT to rush to their real world weather sides and start complaining because the sim weather model is not showing exactly what’s reported in real world.
Instead of asking for a real world inside a virtual digital realm, Asobo should develop all the tools pilots use for weather and flight planning inside the sim.
Of course, the weather model pre-SU7 wasn’t without it flaws but it got increasingly better about the course of a year and did a pretty amazing and solid job at depicting realistic weather on a global scale. Sure, not as complex as real world weather, because you don’t want to buy a NASA super computer.
But it was there and getting better.
I think people forget that we got quite realistic weather (it didn’t really happen that we got weather phenomena not know on planet earth) at the appropriate seasons and scale. It was realistic for its time and technical capabilities and I hope we can get back on track and improve that in the future.
People who want their metar based highly unrealistic weather depiction can use mods - even free ones- and stop make their problem anybody’s else problem. I hope Asobo takes this over-relying on metars back.
*I’m fine with that some metar info was fed into the weather system during the last year, because it worked quite well and didn’t get over-prioritized and I’m not sure how they did it.
Now I continue looking at the shelved copy of MSFS until they somehow revert back or make the metar joke optional.
Sorry for the rant.
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Pretty spot on here.
Very well said. 
Very well said, and I’m 100% with you.
BUT: there’s the problem with the online networks (Vatsim, IVAO, PilotEdge…) using real world data for their workflow. And therefore I think it is time for a paradigm change and to think about making MSFS weather the new “standard simulation weather” used in all the flight simulation context out there.
Next BUT: there are for sure legal and practical hurdles, and I’m not quite sure if the 10-year lifespan for MSFS will suffice.
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Couldn’t explain it better! Amazing! Thank you! I think many of those that needed METAR has now changed their minds
Then someone can dev a new platform for that thing. We need to adapt to move forward. Maybe someone sitting and do the obeservations on the airport. Could be fun for those who like that. Pressing B for preassure. Use our Eyes to see if it’s IFR. Use shift+Z addon to see actual wind speed and measure the avarage windspeed maybe. Could make an addon that measure avarage windspeed over a set of time. Many things to do with it to make it realistic.
With METAR It’s moving backward. Static and unrealistic.
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And I was happy to get away from this rigid system. 
Exactly and now we are back again 
It is ok for data, but nothing more, and certainly NOT to generate realistic weather from it.
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They need options for it because it’s mixed feelings about this. Then all will be happy.
It was not advertised like a METAR weather thing. It was advertised as a predicted weather system that could be close to what we see IRL. Not be the real current weather.