Which they’ve had five years to do, but what did we get in the latest Q&A? “Please post on the forums” we have been…. For five years about the subject …
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Are you new here ? The community has been providing said info since 5 years.
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Be realistic. Most of that “said info” has been anecdotal, piecemeal, scattered throughout various different threads. You could blame MS for not providing a dedicated channel for receiving accurate reports, which would be valid, but saying “the community” has been providing accurate detailed weather report discrepancies in a focused targeted manner for 5 years isn’t accurate.
Unless it’s received in a dedicated channel in a standardized format it’s hard to action in engineering terms.
If MS is serious about receiving said info then they should set up a dedicated channel with a template similar to bug reports.
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Realistically, the engaged community has been providing the said info, including specific examples but also anecdotally, in a blind faith that there are professionals and experts on the receiving side who just need to be reminded that the situation is not OK and that the community has noticed. It is still unknown what was wrong with that reasonable assumption.
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omg guys the only thing they need to do is just to check where are the thunderstoms right now in the world, open the simulator and check if they can see a CB or something. they can find this info in METARs, news reports, livestreams, airport cams…. We can HELP, but we are not the reason why its not done yet
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Because drumroll it’s not reasonable assumption?
Microsobo plainly have their own weather development plan, and it’s obviously completely different from the expectations of the small subset of dedicated users on this forum whose weather realism demands don’t align with Microsobo’s plan. That’s really the cause of all the forum angst. That’s a problem for both sides to manage expectations better.
The fact they have not instituted dedicated feedback channels for targeted weather scenarios tells you all you need to know. Maybe they do dribble through the odd “post on the forums” report, but no one knows as there is no acknowledgement or indication of acceptance of said posts. “We read everything on the forums” I’m sure is true, but that doesn’t mean specific posts buried among threads are acknowledged and triaged to the dev team.
In any event, as mentioned, if they were serious about user input they’d set up dedicated data reporting channels with a standard format like bugs, acknowledge them as they get seen/triaged, and keep people posted on progress.
Personally, I don’t have a problem with live weather as I have ZERO expectations with the development of it, as I can understand the complexity inherent in developing it. It generally improves with each release, so I’m sure they’ll get there eventually. Is it perfect? Of course not. But neither is any sim, they’re all works in progress.
See previous point.
Then why are you here gas lighting everyone? Let us voice our thoughts without your constant need to shout everyone down please
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Gaslighting? I’ve made a number of extremely technical posts explaining why weather development is a hard problem, not to “defend” MS or “gaslight” people but in an attempt to at least enlighten people that it’s not as simple as some people make out.
Also, as other posters have also made the point, sometimes it’s nice just to step back and perhaps appreciate it has measurably improved in some ways and not totally unusable.
There are many perspectives here, yours is not the only one and the forums are, as they say, open to all.
I’m also offering a solution. You should be pushing for this:
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Hey there, just out of curiosity, would you please give some examples of how live weather has improved in the past releases?
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You can do that yourself quite easily.
Open the dev stream YouTube videos with weather discussion topics with transcript in a browser. Then ask CoPilot (or whatever AI you like) in the side tab to “Analyse the transcript and give an exact summary of what was said about the weather, to verify what was said or implied, with timestamps.”
Here’s two video examples, but there’s more:
April 2026 Developer Stream | Microsoft Flight Simulator
July 2025 Developer Stream | Microsoft Flight Simulator
Unfortunately, I can’t post them here as it’s against the forum TOS (as I was told in no uncertain terms by the mods when I did exactly that), but one thing AI is good at is video transcript summarization and it’s a very quick way to get the gist. You can also look at the actual transcript which is timestamped and linked from the playback head if you want to verify.
It’s also not just about improvements; it’s about disclosing having to rework whole parts of the weather system before they can improve it. That point gets missed a lot in the conversation it seems.
XPlane (or other flight sims) have not solved this problem either btw, they just have different issues, and some of the same ones.
Happy flying.
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I’m trying to stay dormant, but sorry, this post fired me up a bit… would you mind also using the AI to check the weather-related promises mentioned countless times vs. the actual delivery? Our endless questions vs. actual answers?
Shall I just remind you of the 2020 days? When wind gusts were broken at SU4, it took nearly a year to get an acknowledgment—and even then, it was a very annoying one. “Gaslighting” is actually what has happened to the core simmer community over and over again… ’nuff said, going back to the shadows….
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We actually had that level of cloud greatness at the beginning. They weren’t just artistic renders.
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The only way this kind of feedback ever gets traction is through structured reporting channels with clear data. Without that, it just turns into scattered posts and mismatched expectations.
For weather‑related use cases specifically, dedicated reporting channels would make an even bigger difference. Weather issues depend heavily on timing, location, and reproducible data, so having a structured place to submit that information would help separate actionable cases from general discussion.
A forum thread isn’t a reporting channel. It’s a discussion space. Dedicated reporting channels are designed for reproducible cases, data collection, and triage, whereas forum posts are mainly for conversation. That’s why posting topics for years doesn’t automatically translate into actionable items on the development side. Without a structured intake process, the feedback can’t be tracked or prioritized in a consistent way.
I’m offering a solution.
If people want better outcomes, this is what’s worth pushing for: dedicated reporting channels with a standard format, the same way bugs are handled. That way issues get acknowledged, triaged, and tracked instead of disappearing unacknowledged into scattered posts.
And if MS doesn’t set something like that up, it’s a clear signal to shift to a zero‑expectation mindset, because it means that type of feedback isn’t being prioritized in practice despite what’s said in dev streams or elsewhere. This sort of feedback needs to be acknowledged as seen and accepted on a case‑by‑case basis if it meets the data requirements.
It’s their product and they can develop it however they choose, but if the input process isn’t managed effectively, it’s probably healthier not to invest too much energy hoping for a specific result. When feedback goes through a structured intake process with complete data, it tends to move. That’s the distinction I’m pointing to, not general forum discussion.
As a developer myself across many products, that’s the only approach I’ve seen actually work from both the user side and the development side.
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The only truly exemplary example of MSFS’s acknowledgment of issues is the embracing of Working Title to level up the avionics—and now aircraft—in the sim.
We need a Working Title-style team and overhaul for the weather; until then, it’s just fake CAVOK.
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That sounds amazing. Keep us posted on your progress.
They could use the HiFi guys and be done with it. I’m sure they would do a better job.
Why? As far as I know, HiFi have never changed the clouds representation themselves, just their placement?
They understand weather…
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Wrong, they have an addon for that: ASCA. But it is only for the FSX/ESP engine.