Wondering what Asobo did with this lovely bird and why it was gutted out of the DC-3.
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Gee, I dunno⊠hmmm
As pictured, itâll never release to the Marketplace. At most we can only hope that AH releases it separately.
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Seems like theyâve washed their hands of it and moved onto the Lanc sadly
AH can only do work on the DC-3/C-47 that MS requests, Iâm sure, due to the contract on selling the plane.
As for the C-47, in Microsoftâs official MSFS world, ***s were never invented, so military aircraft donât exist. 
More to do with the âE for everyoneâ label. Like it or not.
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For those wondering about the âenhancementâ packs in the Marketplace, AH posted this today:
A short explanation of the Standard versus Enhanced versions of the DC-3.
Because XBox requires 2k textures (it canât handle 4k very well) we have to employ 3D geometry livery detail and texts and decals overlaying the base texture to get clarity and sharpness. This is most apparent in the cockpit for example.
So, if you donât use the 4k enhanced in PC platform, you may be disappointed with the resolution in the cockpits and in some areas, the exteriors. So we would heartily recommend that you DO NOT uninstall the 4K enhanced version, you will regret it.
So, unless youâre really tight for space, best to keep those installed even if you donât like the admittedly disappointing default liveries.
Nope. Not the place to argue this, but Iâve worked in the game industry since before the ESRB was even founded, and having a military transport plane, gun barrels that donât fire on a historic plane, or cannon barrels on a scenery battleship wouldnât ruin an E rating. Thereâs probably a deeper backstory here, very likely more to do with making partners like Cessna comfortable with the licensing than with ESRB concerns. (Case in point: MS prohibits them on Marketplace add-ons, even though optional add-ons do not affect a gameâs rating.)
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yes, and this is included in an integrated edition. If itâs not allowed on the marketplace, why would you expect it to be allowed for an included package?
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Whatâs wrong with a C-47 and a livery then?
Even if they didnât want the paratroopers in it
I really canât tell you, thatâs probably something between AH and MS.
Looks like AH have washed their hands of it and moved onto the Lanc.
That doesnât reflect well on AH in that case. Ini is working hard on improving the A310. But you might also be reading too much into it. We simply donât have the data to come to any solid conclusions imo.
From what I have heard from other developers, MS/Asobo contracted them to build planes for the 40th Anniversary.
Some of these planes were already partially complete, and had been announced publicly as payware releases.
Planes like the DC-3 and the Beaver would have had more models if released as payware, but for the 40th Anniversary release, they were only tasked with making the models from prior MSFS titles (especially 2004âs Century of Flight).
MS/Asoboâs contract will not allow developers to release payware versions of the planes they contracted with MS/Asobo to release for the 40th Anniversary. And developers will lose money by continuing to add new models for a contract that has already been fulfilled to MS/Asoboâs liking. MS/Asobo wanted exclusive rights to these planes and paid developers for said exclusivity. This means Blackbird/MilViz are not allowed to make and sell a turbo or tundra Beaver, and the folks at Aeroplane Haven are not allowed to release a payware military version of the DC-3 because they already contractually agreed to sell the planes for this SU11 release, so now, Asobo gets those exclusive models and the developers are not allowed to double dip for profit after they were already paid for exclusivity.
So, it is safe to say we would have got more plane in a couple cases if we had payed the developers full price for an addon, but the developers got enough money from MS/Asobo instead, to make it worthwhile for them to contract their planes out for release in a simpler form, to a larger user base, for the 40th Anniversary edition of MSFS, and now they are bound by contract to keep those models exclusive to MS/Asobo, who never contracted them to make more models or versions of their plane. They gave their client, MS/Asobo, what they were contracted to provide, which was less than they intended to develop had they released these planes (likely at a later date) to the public as payware.
TLDR: AH wasnât contracted to make a military version of the DC-3 for SU11, so they wouldnât have made any more money if they did. They were contracted to provide MS/Asobo a working DC-3, which they delivered, and are likely contracted to fix bugs as needed, but they arenât allowed to make a payware version of any variant of that model. Their exclusivity contract with MS/Asobo will not allow it.
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Gaya sold a bespoke version of one of my nearby airports - Block Island, RI USA - KBID before a stripped-down version was included in USA World Update 2. Itâs the same product - just missing goodies like static parked traffic, people avatars, moving ramp vehicles etc.
Gayaâs version is no longer sold following USA WU 2 - even though the page makes you think it does (leads to Orbx but throws a 404).
https://www.gaya-simulations.com/products/block-island
That was a rare instance of a commercial payware having stayed long enough on the market to garner some stand-alone sales before being contracted for exclusivity. So the pattern is clear in terms of how the assets are acquired. The support is not abandoned (users must open an MS Zendesk, if itâs actionable by the manufacturer it gets routed to them), itâs just the creators have probably surrendered any further development on the product for however long MSFS lasts.
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Yes. And exclusively is important. Or AH could say, Nerf their DC-3 for MS/Asobo so they could bolster sales of their own, better payware version down the line!
I think the pattern will be to retain the rights to create it again after MSFS has gone the way of previous FS versions. But for now, non-compete.
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So basically weâll never see a C-47 unless someone else does it. Such a shame to miss such an important part of history.
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Exactly.
Anyone BUT AH and MS/Asobo are allowed to make their version. But they are less likely to do so now that everyone already has a DC-3 in their hangar.
Sometimes we get a payware Porter by a different developer that is better than the Porter we all have in sim. But it is safe to say folks are less likely to buy a second version of the same plane if they already have one for free. So developers arenât exactly rushing to make a second version of a plane that already exists in sim.
Itâs looking like it will be abandon ware with what AH have said (directing all bug issues and reports to Asobo instead of themselves) so that will open the door for a better one down the line.