Which are your "Top favourite Cities/Places" with the best Photogrammetry to fly in? MSFS2024 + MSFS2020 LIST

Did you find Bari? (oops I see it on the WU city list sorry) Definitely very different!
That poor stadium, they should fix that.

Also, some of the non-PG cities in this area have almost Dali looking melted, rolling areas, whoa.

And Townsville, Australia, on the list, that is amazing. At first I wondered why you listed it, but I just kept flying and it got better and better.

Only tiny mistake I see is Naples, Italy, spelling.

Yes, I wrote a little review of it just a few posts up :wink:

“Naples” is fixed now, thanks. BTW this is @AirRhodesia 's topic, but he has been kind enough to let me also work on it with him (to feed my list addiction!).

Not sure what you mean really. If it has melted buildings, that will be PG :smiley:

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Thank you to both of you for the work done, it’s excellent.

Not melted buildings when the PG detail fails to load,
but melted landscape I guess… rolling and twisting like in Palermo but worse, one was melting into a river canyon running through the city. Like a bit too much Salvia Divinorum, say.

None of my pics will load on here, trying to fix that.

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Perugia, Italy! Now THAT’S what I’m talking about!

It’s like Ancona but turned up to 12! I already gave Ancona 11/10 so you need a new category for this! :rofl:

(…but yep, 11/10 from me for Perugia!)

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Totally agree with you there. I thought it was awesome. It gets a 11/10 from me too.

Think I might have to make a new category of “12/10 the best of the best” :joy:

It’s also got two nice little airfields in the PG area, Tried landing at LIHW and because it’s PG the grass runway was full of really bad bumps but landed okay without any damage.

Then checked on flightsim.to and there’s a freeware version of it which just makes flying in that area so much better.

https://flightsim.to/file/48021/aviosuperficie-montemelino-magione-pg

Marketplace had LIRZ for about £8 so had to buy it :laughing:
Also bought LIPY - Ancona International Airport off fightsim.to store for £11.50 but had a discount code for £2.50 so got it for £9 :smirk:

Did a flight between the two in my Piper Comanche 250 and it took about 28mins. A really enjoyable short flight.

Perugia will be added to the list later :+1:

And Madrid? Is at the level of Barcelona in my opinion

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Trying to decide between that and the Tega version (not in marketplace but looks better)…??

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I’ve just had a flight there and can confirm it looks amazing now. Might have been my internet causing it to not look as good.
Will change the rating to 10/10 when I update it later on. I still think Barcelona is the best but the shear size of Madrid PG is huge!

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Yeah, and have added a lot of outskirts to Madrid in last City Update

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Sorry my mistake I thought that Madrid was on the List I made so it’ll get added tonight. :+1:

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I think the iniBuilds one looks better. If I had seen that one I would have got it instead :worried: Not to worry. The one I’ve got is still really good and makes flying in that area so much better then the default airport.

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I was flying my little R22 around Ancona tonight, looks like next stop will be Perugia.

I also flew the bus from Edinburgh to Italy prior to this. On live weather it was dry and sunny in Edinburgh, which was surprising, but when I jumped into the Robinson at Ancona it was dark, heavy rain and no vis. I had to turn live weather off in order to see the pg! I can only assume live weather is broken again so I should go raise a bug for it. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Yep I think live weather is a bit hit and miss at the moment. The whole of the UK has had a lot of sunshine today, makes a nice change :laughing: And recently it’s been warmer in Scotland then it has in England :roll_eyes:

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Credit to @Baracus250 for all his help with the format of this list and with “The Airports in PG areas” list.
Credit to @Mbraortns for suggesting adding the number of Airports in PG area - link to the list is at the end of this list.

New PG Cities & Areas added as of 15/09/2024

  • Dublin, Ireland 10/10
  • Newcastle/Sunderland, U.K 11/10
  • Port-Vendres, France 10/10

Added 13/09/2024

  • Cascais, Lisbon, Portugal 11/10
  • Lisbon, Portugal 10/10
  • Bari, Italy 8/10 - Thanks to @Baracus250
  • Perugia, Italy 11/10 - Thanks to @Baracu250
  • Madrid, Spain 10/10 - Thanks to @ricdpm for the suggestion
  • Venice, Italy has been included with Padova, Italy. 10/10
  • Rouen, France 8/10 - Thanks to @Snowleopard3295
  • L.A + San Diego, California now includes Santa Monica, Santa Barbara, Palm Springs, Banning, Corona, Riverside 10/10
  • Nantes, France 9/10 - Thanks to @Snowleopard3295
  • Indianapolis, Indiana, U.S.A 9/10

11/10: The Few VERY BEST

City Country Size Notes
Ancona Italy Medium Good PG - amazing landscape - non PG blended in nicely - unique architecture
Barcelona Spain Very Large Super diverse - nice mountains - huge Port - one of the best cities IMHO
Brisbane Australia Large Super diverse - muddy rivers are stunning!
Cascais Portugal Meduim Very diverse - Crisp PG - amazing rocky coastline - Lisbon to the east - rivers are poor though
Cork Ireland Medium Super diverse - PG is exceptional - nicely blended with non PG
Heidelberg Germany Large Super diverse and exceptional PG - really nice surrounding mountains and rivers
Las Vegas, Nevada U.S.A Very Large Super diverse with stunning mountains and a quarry in incredible detail
London U.K Very Large Super diverse - PG extends past Heathrow
Newcastle + Sunderland U.K Large Super diverse - Crisp PG blended well with non PG - interesting city with awesome dry docks - loads to explore
Parma Italy Medium PG is exceptional! No AI trees!
Perugia Italy Large Quite diverse - PG isn’t the sharpest - Nice hills and mountains and a few airfields in PG area
Townsville Australia Medium Super diverse - exceptional PG
Washington DC U.S.A Phenomenal Size Super diverse - plenty to explore - Extends 45nm N, 36nm S, 30nm W & 34nm E

10/10: Top Rated

City Country Size Notes
Auckland New Zealand Very Large Super diverse - lots to explore
Bilbao Spain Large Very diverse - lots of rolling hills - interesting area - really nice cliffs and quarries
Bologna Italy Medium Quite diverse - nice architecture - very nice PG
Bristol + Bath U.K Large Super diverse - nice docks and Industrial areas - interesting city centre
Brno Czechia Medium Super diverse with lots of churches and motorway bridges and roads are perfect- non PG areas blended in very well
Cairnes Australia Medium Exceptional PG - Interesting city - very nice quality PG
Canberra Australia Medium Nice diverse city - clean PG
Cardiff + Newport Wales U.K Large Super diverse - clean crisp PG - lots to explore
Darwin Australia Large Nice city - clean PG - lots of interesting places to see
Dublin Ireland Large Very diverse - super detailed moors & quarries - lost count of No. of Golf courses - stunning coastline with railway line and tunnels
Eastbourne + Brighton U.K Medium Top quality PG - extends quite far east and west
Gold Coast Australia Medium Pretty diverse - nice districts - crisp PG - nice atmosphere
L.A/San Diego area U.S.A Phenomenal Size Super diverse - plenty to explore
Leeds + Bradford U.K Large Really nice buildings and architecture - very nice clean PG
Lisbon Portugal Large Very diverse - PG is decent quality - Nice Port and hills - Bridges are nice - PG all along river
Madrid Spain Very Large Super diverse - PG is high quality - massive area to explore - blended well with non PG
Malaga Spain Medium Super diverse - PG all the way down coast to Marbella and extends quite far inland - loads to explore
Montreal Canada Very Large Super diverse - lots to explore - nearly every house has a pool!
Munich Germany Very Large Super diverse - clean PG
New York City U.S.A Large Super diverse - clean PG - Skyscraper heaven!
Pamplona Spain Small Very crisp PG - looks very nice at night
Port-Vendres France Small Interesting little area - PG is top quality - nice hills and port - a few hill forts, old ruins and castles in PG
Sacramento CA U.S.A Huge Super diverse - lots to explore
San Antonio TX U.S.A Large Super diverse - very clean PG
Tokyo Japan Large Super diverse - Skyscraper heaven!
Venice + Padova Italy Very Large Super diverse - PG from Venice to Padova - very large area to explore
Wellington New Zealand Large Super diverse - Very nice rivers that extend quite far - nice hills

9/10: Next Level

City Country Size Notes
Allicante Spain Small Pretty diverse - nice PG - and a nice “hill fort” too!
Bordeaux France Medium Really diverse - nice PG - home of Asobo - see if you can spot the Blue Balloon :smirk:
Calgary Canada Large Quite diverse -very crisp PG - non PG areas not blended in well
Copenhagen Denmark Very Large Super diverse - high quality PG extends to Malmo and up along the coast to Landskrona
Florence Italy Large Really diverse - nice architecture
Farmington, New Mexico U.S.A Small Nice surrounding bluffs in PG too
Glasgow Scotland Large Super diverse - PG extends quite far - nice architecture
Indianapollis U.S.A Medium Quite diverse - very nice PG - loads to explore - lots of skyscrapers - home of the Indy 500
Melbourne Australia Medium Nice variety - lots to explore - lots of skyscrapers
Milano Italy Large Super diverse - very nice PG - edges of PG area aren’t blended well with non PG areas
Nantes France Medium Quite diverse - nice PG - loads to explore
Naples Italy Large Super diverse - very interesting city - really nice PG
Nashville TN U.S.A Large Super diverse - clean PG - lots of skyscrapers
Nice + Monte Carlo France Large Interesting - Spectacular terraforming along the coast - plenty to explore PG isn’t the sharpest
Oslo Norway Large Quite diverse - very nice landscape especially in winter
Palermo Sicily Medium Quite diverse nice PG
Perth Australia Large Not best quality PG, but interesting city
Rome Italy Large Very diverse - full of Italian charm - lots to explore
San Fransisco CA U.S.A Large Super diverse - very nice PG - lots of skyscrapers
St Louis Missouri U.S.A Large Super diverse - very clean PG - a very pretty city- lots of skyscrapers
Valencia Spain Small Quite diverse - very nice PG

8/10 (and lower): Still worth a look

City Country Size Notes
Bari Italy Large Not best quality PG, but interesting more modern city - lots of churches
Dubrovnik Croatia Medium Pretty poor in outskirts but interesting city
Edinburgh Scotland Meduim Interesting - some broken PG areas near Castle
Kansas City MS U.S.A Large Interesting - nice clean PG
Lille France Small Interesting - good quality PG
Rotterdam + The Hague Netherlands Large Interesting - not the best quality PG - FPS issues with some users
Rouen France Small Interesting - Very nice PG but patchy and not blended in well with non PG
Seattle Washington U.S.A Large Interesting - not best quality PG
Vienna Austria Very Large Interesting - not the best PG but interesting city - FPS issues with some users

A big thankyou to everyone who has contributed.
If anyone wants to include any notes on any of the Cities or suggest any changes in the list please let me know and I’ll only be too happy to edit it.

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@Snowleopard3295 I found a really nice little PG place to fly in called Port-Vendres in France that has old Fort, Castles and some old ruins all in PG!
It was listed in Game of the Year Edition - Release Notes (1.21.13.0) Sim Update VII
PG is really nice quality. It’s not a massive area but enough is covered and the PG is blended well with non-PG. Closest airport is 17mins away.


Not sure if I’ll add it to the “list” but had fun exploring that area.

Fantastic, thank you AirRhodesia!

What a tiny place hidden in there, and I like the more arid part of France here too.

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A couple more for “The List”!

Zagreb, Croatia = 11/10 (nearest airport: LDZA)
Large area with a lot of variety. Especially like the little villages weaving through the valleys and on the ridges at the north east of the city! There are a few texts on buildings (shop signs, logos etc) that are CRAZY clear resolution. Imagine if in 8 years time the whole world will be of this resolution! Check this out as one example (…and see if you can find it :slight_smile: )!

Pavia, Italy = 8/10 (nearest airport: LIVK)
Very cute place. Not the biggest, not the best, but is pretty interesting to look around. Nice mix of old town style and newer apartments, industrial areas and farms in the countryside.

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UP. One of the best topic out there

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Good find with Pavia! Another tiny PG pearl.

Zagreb, whoa. The detail seems to be way, way more intricate here!!

maybe the Xbox x detail has been restored, or this is a new PG level, but even the tops of the industrial buildings are too much to believe.

And it’s the whole area.
Frame rate and data loading excellent too.

Still searching for the petrokov megalith…letting the xbox cool down after this flight indeed

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Welcome to The Hunt

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