Just wondering why Fenix (A320), FSS (E190) and FBW A20N are not able to be as efficient as the PMDG 737 regarding FPS. The 737 is so much smoother and has significantly more FPS in otherwise the same settings.
Is it the brilliance of PMDG or something else?
PMDG is short for Precision Manuals Development Group. Not knocking the others but I think that they are not as proficient or dont have all the resources that PMDG does.
Performance in the Fenix is very very good, Same as the PMDG. I do get worse performance in the FSS aircraft though
For me there is still a huge difference between the Fenix A320 and PMDG 737 in FPS.
It’s something else, IMO.
Compare PMDG’s cockpit texturing to the others. Look at their animations compared to others. Unlike the Fenix A320, how many of the 737 circuit breakers are functional?
The good news, apparently, is that the Fenix A320 Block 2 cockpit textures will be optimised from 2 GB to 1 GB VRAM usage.
No doubt that PMDG has created the best complex airliner in terms of performance. Their 737 does a good job of replicating the real thing. But let’s not pretend that it’s solely because they are the best devs.
I don’t know about brilliance, PMDG are good though!
I would say experience counts here.
PMDG has been developing their products for a long time and already know how to optimize them.
well with the new update that fenix is working on, performance seems to be something they are addressing.
Yep, that would be very welcome!
You can take a look at this
PMDG have years of experience and they all the same planes across decades of SIM’s and their code optimisations. They will of course have all that nailed down. By the time Fenix is on their 3rd Plane they will have all that nailed down too.
Yes MSFS is a different Sim (WASAM / JS / HTML / JS Framework) But pure C++ will always be faster, and that’s what PMDG use I think, there is much less overhead.
The ultimate answer would be from the likes of MATT from Working Title that guy seems to be a wizard at all this and the rest of the team too. Even the FBW is so much better now, and those guys started on on a more HTML/JS basis.
FSS E175/190 has shifted a lot from HTML/JS to WASAM which I beleive gets compiled down to C++ and the speed is noticeable.
But nothing will beat pure C++ from the get go as I understand it.
NOTE:
I dont claim to know how MSFS Development works, so I might be wrong. Everything above is my assumption, and based on what I have come to understand.
PMDG certainly performs better for me over the Fenix.
That said, Fenix is well aware of the performance cost with their aircraft and have been working to improve it.
We saw some gains with the Block 1 update, and they are working on further performance improvements with Block 2.
You can read about it on their Discord.
PMDG may have an edge due to being WASM based and having said that, Fenix is addressing performance their side as well with Block 2.
I would say because of experience. PMDG have been releasing the same plane(s) for like 15 years.
Fenix is a newcomer and, quite frankly propelled themselves into the top portion of addon developers.
In an instant
I love both planes, but the Fenix 320 (in terms of depth and usability) is unparalled at the moment, if opinions of real world crews are something to go by.
All in all I would say this comes at a cost. But I’m sure they will be able to streamline their efforts.
Experience and 20 years of code optimization should be worth something. And PMDG mostly focus on that one place where the magic happens and only add surrounding details as they have a secured performance overhang.
Not starting anything here, but please be careful with these statements.
Maybe in MSFS, maybe, but the only add-on that is truly unparalled across any sim is:
https://www.x-aviation.com/catalog/product_info.php/take-command-hot-start-challenger-650-p-212
or FS LABS AIRBUS, but IMHO the CL650 eclipses it.
And thats not a X-Plane is better, it isnt, but sadly this add-on is exclusive to X-Plane…For now
I second that. I don’t have it but being able to see the systems work in real time, valves, pumps and all, is pure aviation geek p:"n
I might reactivate xplane and might get it. 
Fs labs: won’t be arguing that 
I personally find Fenix a bit too heavy on my system. FBW on the other hand works fine. Have not tried any of PMDG products in MSFS yet - Still flying those on P3D
Although from my experience with PMDG on previous sims and I am assuming they are maintaining similar standards with msfs - They tend to focus more on system depth/simulation than visuals and all of their products come optimised for best performance.
Secret sauce originating from 27 years of experience:)
You wont regret it. I just flew it, and I recently reactivated XP due to hearing good things about the recent updates.
My Opinion on XP’s current state after a handful of flights in it are as follows.
It certainly looks better, the clouds are good, the new Scenery cut is good, and of course the CL650.
Performance is way, way better too.
Its never going to look as absolutely amazing as MSFS, never! Going back to the stale old Avionics in XP when we have all the WT Garmin’s in MSFS is just soul destroying, but for those few planes and Airliners and default airports look way better than they do in MSFS and no missing markings etc, Arguably better night lighting and lighting over all and I say Arguably… and of course the Zibo and those fluid spot on flight dynamics it is well worth a rodeo now and then.
MSFS is now my Go to sim has been for all of 2023, but XP has some massive advantages in small doses.
Regarding the Fenix, I dont think it is all that, terrible in gusts, the lack of any options engines wise, which fine they said soon, but I am not holding my breath and it is clunky. PMDG are king still IMHO.