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• Yes, it seems to exist on every career mission.
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• I had a C172 go from over speed to stall while in level flight. I bought 2024 over 2020 just for the career mode which is utterly useless right now with this weather.
Interesting, have noticed some thermals in career mode but nothing extreme as some are experiencing…
do you have live weather/Instrument rating? The extreme winds only start once you get live weather
Ah got it, no I never got that far. I already have a career in real life so I couldn’t bring up the patience to fly people around in C172s to pay for the IR.
Just bumping this to help raise the awareness.
The turbulence for the first flight in career mode is wild, and although the whole flight was bumpy as hell and I couldn’t keep the plane level, the passengers enjoyed the flight.
I guess they love theme park rides. 
The situation had gotten better two days ago, but today immediately after the career maintenance was done it has returned to the unflyable condition it was before. Whatever they did got undone.
Darned!
I hoped it would stay good.
Had a lovely flight in the C208 earlier today, with 1kt headwind and no turb on approach.
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I do suspect there is some overlap happening between free flight and career as suspected in this thread.
I was doing some experiments, where I set specific presets in a free flight then flew a career mission.
I ran into several missions where the sky looked perfectly clear, as I had set in Free Flight, yet at the end of the mission I got a “Bad Weather” bonus.
So I imagine the opposite could also be true. If you had done a free flight on live weather, then a career mission might be pulling live weather in on top of the scripted weather for the career mission.
The vast majority of the issue for me is the overdone turbulence and up/down drafts. Even if the wind isn’t remotely close to real life in some cases, it’s not such a nuisance as to make the game nearly unplayable. I took a video clip of the game to prove my point since people seem to not believe some of us in here about how extreme it is but I am unable to upload it here even though it is a very small clip.
Even in cases where the wind is only 10-15kt cross wind at altitude, which is fairly calm, the turbulence is absolutely insane. I wish I could share my clip on here. My grand caravan wobbles back and forth the entire flight like it’s a flag being waved at a parade, combined with steep dips and angles and random up/downdrafts that throw the plane all over like a rag doll.
Quite frankly, I think the wind is bugged, but it is the least of the 3 things I am worried about. I heavily suspect turbulence is balanced around airliners (so they feel something at all), and up/down drafts are balanced around gliders (so they work). Their flight model is apparently not so perfect they can balance for all things at once, at least this is my theory. It is obviously possible because x-plane does it.
As for the least of my worries, the wind, I think it feels somewhat realistic for what the game is reporting, it’s just that the game isn’t reporting the correct wind almost always. Although, I admit, the offset angle one must have sometimes to counter wind on landing is a bit much, so maybe it isn’t realistic. Again, wind is very difficult to judge because the tubulence and drafts are so bad it overwhelms the wind often.
It was said on the developer stream that this will be fixed in the third patch. When it came to going into detail about it, they only said it was a career issue and were told it would be fixed in patch three but otherwise didn’t know details about it.
I’m level 47 in Career and didn’t seem to have too much of an issue until yesterday. Cruising at 9000ft I noticed the weather was throwing the plane around that much it almost put the plane into a stall. Then again today taxing to a runway and the plane flipped over causing a crash, twice in the South Island of New Zealand. Moved the plane upto the far North of New Zealand and it taxied fine but lifting of the runway it decided it was going vertically upward.
I really hope this gets fixed soon, was worried I had completely lost one of my Cessna’s.
Finally experienced this yesterday for the first time, on a flight seeing mission and the starred medium cargo mission at Misyake Japan.
During the flight seeing mission, there weren’t any extreme winds or turbulence. There was just a constant, smooth, strong updraft. It was like I was soaring with very good ridge lift. At idle, full flaps, banked almost 30 degrees with the nose down… I was still climbing. I had to pull some rather aggressive and extreme maneuvers to get the plane down to the flight seeing objectives and to land, a steep spiral and slip with full opposite rudder. Flying the circle around the POI required idle and half flaps to keep it under 82 knots. Got a 0% for smoothness on that flight.
On the medium cargo run I hit the hurricane crosswind turbulence on landing. I crashed three times trying to get it down. Once it crashed mid roll-out when the winds pitched the 208 over. Another I time I fully ground looped off the runway into the trees. Once I got it down, but was then lofted back into the air, stalled, and couldn’t save it with a go-around. I went around half a dozen times before deciding to finally just land straight into the wind, using the width of the runway, a taxiway, and the ramp as my runway. Took a huge reputation penalty after that one.
Glad it’s not just me having issues with this mission in particular
In the medium cargo transport initiation mission near tokyo (don’t know if it’s the same for everyone else), game makes you land with 41kts of crosswind speed which is above 208b caravan’s tolerances. Not even the autopilot can keep it straight. Anyone else had this issue?
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• impossible - not enough data provided and cannot replicate initial conditions (mission not available, prior start point not the same
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• Something is feeding goofy winds into certain missions. I’m trying to think of data that could help isolate this bug:
What were the reportable winds (from your nav display or a nearby weather station - AWOS/ATIS)?
Where you were (location and altitude) when the abnormal conditions occurred?
What was the mission? (Mission Type, also Include whether was it one of the “starred” missions)
Where was your prior mission? (Maybe where was your career pilot located when you began the sim session?)
Did the mission winds match the winds at your “home” airport, or the airport to which you flew the prior mission, or at where you ended the prior session (where your pilot may have last been located when you began the career session)?
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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• not able to reproduce because there is a lack of information contributing to the variables prior to initiating the mission. Nor can we always reproduce those exact criteria - for instance, that mission is no longer available for me.
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• I didn’t have an issue at all for the Caravan starred mission. The winds were smooth and light. I had been flying in the Mojave Desert in the session prior (it’s where my pilot had been located) and it was light and variable winds there.
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I get the frustration, but I think a few things are happening here.
I know this is not going to be a popular opinion or post. I do have a PPL and have flown sim/IRL for almost 35 years.
I’ve flown a few live missions in career mode now for the expressed purpose of comparing the “in game live weather” with actual weather.
Its surprisingly accurate.
What isn’t accurate is the LIFR IFR MVFR etc… symbols on the data before hand. I had a flight that showed LIFR on the arrival on the mission screen that was sunny no clouds clearly VFR. I digress.
What I think the career mode needs most is METAR info both in its proper form and broken down easier for newcomers to digest. Its ok to have live weather, but not ok to make us guess what we might be getting when we enter the mission.
Adding to this frustration is the fact that everyone is starting in a C172 in a season that if you are flying North of the equator, you literally shouldn’t be flying right now. I doubt many 172 pilots are logging many hours right now in the Northern hemisphere. Its just a bad season to be flying up here. Not communicating this to people when they are starting their careers is a mistake.
If you fly a C172 in 40 knot winds across portions of any ocean, I wouldn’t worry too much about your arrival as you probably won’t make it that far IRL.
15 knots in a 172 is scary.
Instead of just offering an opinion, allow me to offer a solution for some.
Go here, click any portion of the map and see what the current winds are:
If they are higher than 10 km/h, don’t fly your 172 there. Pick another spot.
A user mentioned the flight in Japan (medium cargo I think) that was very windy… Yes… its very windy there right now: (see below)
Flying a 172 in that is a death wish.
They should for the (first flights of each category) disable live weather and craft the weather specifically for the mission.
They should also communicate to you that live weather is not always nice and that you might want to pick a spot that is easier to fly in, like California at the moment. Of course then we are going to have people taking off at 7000’ complaining about the performance of the aircraft during climb.
Again, information is king, especially for new users.
NOV/DEC is literally the worst season for flying in the North… go south. Its not as “unrealistic” as you imagine…
Once you have received more certifications, step up your aircraft to one that is more capable.
Hope this helps someone.
EDIT: Live weather and data might at first seem like something that is unnecessary to most. Especially when its grounding your flights. But as you learn and progress and possibly start planning with charts and other tools you will quickly realize how awesome live weather data is. What live weather and other data means is that you can start using real life tools like the link above to plan your flights. If it wasn’t live you are stuck using whatever tools MS supplies. With live you can start using real planning tools like you might IRL.
