Wind and turbulence in the Career Mode is ridiculous

I just tried the first Medium cargo mission in the Grand Caravan in Japan, the wind coming into land is totally ridiculous, does changing the date/time affect the weather in the missions, or is it predetermined in the sim??

Has anyone managed to land yet?

It’s like that for most players. Try landing into the wind on a taxiway perpendicular to the runway. That’s how I got through the mission. It’s ugly but works.

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That’s the ā€˜windy’ app.

I sold the airplane and purchase the PC12.
With PC12 is all perfect.

To be honest I dont know if this behavior is related with the wind or woth this particular model physics.

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it’s not just wind and turbulence that are bad. i made the mistake of turning live weather back on in Career. the METAR for the small Czech airfield that i was running dubious cardboard boxes to was: FEW 200, SCATTERED 500, BROKEN 2000

when i finally arrived, it turned out that FEW 200 apparently means an impenetrable fog cloud at ground level – and, of course, the airfield had no lighting. ALT-F4 ragequit.

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Same thing happened to me yesterday. The airport had no ILS system and I had to land using the SVS of the GTC. At 100 ft from the runway there was no visibility at all.

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Whether or not you (reader in general) don’t like how the weather is modeled, I can say that it is possible to practice maneuvers in free flight.

Mission weather and free flight weather is modeled consistently based on my testing. (Flew a mission, landed, launched a free flight at the airport setting the Live Weather time to match the mission at landing and the weather matched,)

Cheers.

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I just tried this mission. (Context: The ā€œgoldā€ mission that introduces using the 208B for medium cargo transport, in Japan.) The closest METAR on live weather shows winds 257 at 9kts. In game, the winds were 43kts, according to the in-game G1000. People should stop trying to silence the complaints about unrealistic wind and turbulence. The issues are real.

I should have just aborted the mission, but after 15 crashes, I landed on the runway. Tanked my S reputation all the way down to barely above minimum A.

I was avoiding getting my instrument rating before today because of all the complaints, but I got my turboprop cert today and wanted to fly the medium cargo missions because the 208B is fun.

I went into Free Flight just after all the crashes and finally landing, made sure it’s Live weather and time, activated the Wind Layer and selected Ground. This is what the wind should have been:

If I do more missions and the winds are jacked up like this, I’m just going to restart my career and avoid Live weather in missions until either we can select real-time or preset weather, or the general consensus from the community is that the problem is actually fixed.

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I just completed a flight that used a LPV approach with a 948ft minimum but had no visibility at all until I got below 300 feet. It shouldn’t have generated such a mission and even if the airport had a precision approach it probably wouldn’t have met the minimums short of a Cat 3 ILS.

KLUX 282335Z AUTO 00000KT 1SM -RA OVC002 10/10 A3016 RMK AO2

RWY 8 LPV, DA(H) 948’ (250’), RVR 3/4 SM

The weather wasn’t the problem here; it simply should never have given a GA aircraft a mission like this.

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I, for one, am not trying to silence anyone; I’m trying to understand the game mechanics so I can enjoy the game more often than being frustrated by it, and I’m reporting my findings in the hope other folks find it useful. (Insert rant about lack of documentation here.)

In order to reduce the number of variables, I’ve done all my testing with flights in the CONUS (continental US). The only thing I claim based on my time with the sim is that I can reliably match in game weather with the data from aviationweather.gov.

That stated, one thing I noticed is that if I create custom weather using the in game weather preset editor, and get it as close to ā€œliveā€ weather as I can, turbulence is much higher with the live weather. Since I’m not a pilot IRL, I can’t fly IRL then come home and compare the game to the actual flight.

This is an opportunity for the dev’s to host a webinar in order to explain how the turbulence modelling works. :wink:

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I too think it’s a tad overbearing. This flight model is hard to get used to.

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• Yes I do. Just flew 2 career mission in new vision jet 3 hours each. First attempt at landing in Virginia mountains had a 45 knt crosswind. I landed it crab style but did $165,000 damage to landing gear but completed mission. Second attempt was in Virginia mountains but was VFR to VFR, then a huge storm appeared in the middle of 21,000ft so i skirted the storm and when I got 5 miles out on final, I still hat 60 KNOT WINDS. Thats almost Category 1 winds! I attempted to land despite the winds and it was impossible so I F4!!

I also have this issue, in the first open world mission in career mode with Cesna. Winds blew me upwards 2500ft when I was trying to land it felt like airplane was in a blender. It was disappointing to see this after patiently waiting few months to start playing career mode due to issues during launch, but I guess I will have to wait several more months to give it another try.

Just experienced this in the C208, while doing the cargo mission in Japan. Crashed 3 times trying to land – flipped over by the crosswind – and came here to find that it’s a known thing. While not a ā€œbugā€ per se, it was frustrating in the moment thinking gI was doing something wrong. Glad to know I wasn’t – well, aside from trying to flying in wind speeds exceeding the aircraft limits! I’ll stay away from that mission for now.

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If you had actually flown that mission in free flight you may have been as shocked as I was this evening.

Flying Freeflight in the KDFW vicinity the winds were between 20kts-40kts.
The real winds today at their worst were 14kt GUSTS. Most of the day the area was 5-7kts, or calm.

At this point I am wondering if somebody messed up the code and it is ADDING WIND and GUST together. 7 + 14 = 21kts What was I flying in? ~21+ kts. Looking suspiciously buggish :beetle: !

And yes, I took the Aviation Weather Center challenge. The real metars read … 5-7kts / gusting 0-14 kts. :expressionless:
( thanks for the site recommendation though! that is a keeper. )


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Don’t even get me started on the zero crosswinds on the ground, but 14kt crosswind 1ft above the runway. So much for tailwheel day. Sure got my one wheel :dancer: landing time in though.

I’ve literally had full right rudder in, ailerons into the wind, and the plane is still drifting left at half power. I’ve been dropping in deadstick at times just because there is no way to counteract the torque + crazy winds.

I had the same issue also, apparently the workaround is to switch off Live Weater in the general settings, then you get a very easy wind off like 2knt at landing when I did it yesterday.

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I think this mission doesn’t use current weather, if you check the date of the mission it is set to some date in 2022, so it could be fixed to this date. At least that’s what I noticed on my attempt.

all missions take place on a date in 15 August 2022, at least according to the EFB. also, the time in the EFB does not agree with the zulu time shown on your PFD. which is correct? probably neither.

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All the missions are unenjoyable. Eliminate the ā– ā– ā– ā–  wind and turbulence. The game is unenjoyable, it’s not about flying. The whole thing is like a GTA game where planes and helicopters ā€œjumpā€ and ā€œthrowā€ wildly. Disaster!

Give the opportunity to freely adjust the weather during the missions. I don’t want wind, I don’t want turbulence!

Since a lot of the lights are missing or not working, it would be game breaking to fly at night. The date is hard coded to ensure you don’t get a mission at nighttime. It’s summer in the northern latitudes so you can fly missions really far north with lots of daylight. I couldn’t find any missions in Antarctica, or any latitude far enough south where this would be an issue.

I’m not sure what timezone the EFB is using, but I believe the PFD UTC time is correct for where it’s putting the sun. Your mission time is also hard coded to a limited subset of times to also ensure it’s daytime in the mission.

The weather is from a different time. It’s either Live or Historical from the last 24-hours, or a preset depending on the mission type.

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