Well the OP did want a panel to change alt and heading etc etc … right ?
So that is something the have or will have
The a320 MCDU
Well the OP did want a panel to change alt and heading etc etc … right ?
So that is something the have or will have
The a320 MCDU
I bought full stack back 2015 and still using it since. Back then was still branded Saitek as Logitech bought them 2016. Its been almost 10yrs and still work great and never had problem with them. Much better quality than their yoke back then. Logi seems did not update linup a bit since Saitek acquisition. If it works why to change it but they are not cheap and is over 10yr old tech. If you are looking for building analog Cessna style cockpit they are OK but not for modern plane or airliner. Radio panel is only useful in any configuration. My next cockpit will be all touch panels really
Finding one with displays for heading/altitude/speed/VS, etc… is what makes it harder. There are few commercial one’s that have that, and they’ve already been listed above.
You could make your own, and drive it with Mobiflight. I currently use this one:
THAT is what I am talking about!
Just checked their website minutes ago.
Price is very reasonable and it does what I am looking for!
If it works for GA and doesn’t need 3rd party software then this could be just the ticket.
Be sure you check this. I don’t own the WinWing, so I’m not sure how configurable their software tools are. If they don’t have profile’s that work with MSFS’s generic autopilot commands and events/variables, then you definitely will need a third party app to assign functions. SPAD, Mobiflight, etc… I think with those tools, you would be able to find people that have already created profiles to assign button functions, but it will require some work from you to get it going.
Mobiflight has their HubHop website with hundreds of user-supplied commands for all kinds of planes. I’m not sure how the SPAD community does it, but I would guess it would be similar.
My setup i showed in the picture does not need the winwing software and all knobs / switches and trigger just work in msfs ( joystick / throttle / rudder )
You can use the software for the rumble engines ( but the MCDU will not rumble anyway )
However … IF their software is needed … it supports MSFS ( and dcs / star citizen also for example )
So i am pretty sure it can be used perfectly fine
Think there are plenty of reviews on youtube by now ( check “winwing mcdu”
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I have watched so many YT videos on these products that my head is ![]()
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I will definitely check the compatibility of the Winwing airliner FCU for use in smaller GA planes.
Maybe the software will only recognize planes they are designed for.
Maybe I am trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
You need Spad next or axis and Ohs for non supported products by their software. So you will dnd up with a 3rd party software anyway… check the software compatibility on their website, its mainly airbus addons like FBW, Fenix, a300 etc i guess
I put in a ticket on Winwing website, will see what happens.
As a test I bound the thumbwheel on my Virpil Alpha prime to the altitude adjustment and it worked.
So Winwing should work.
yeah, if the aircraft you want to use supports the default bindings, it might work.
Not sure if the sim default bindings recognise the Winwing panel tho, but i guess you will find out ![]()
MSFS is not detecting my 737 MCP and EFIS from Coreflight so I believe it may also not detect the FCU and EFIS from Winwing. That’s how flight simulators work - 3rd-party software are often required. It’s possible that the Winwing app is designed to work with Airbus-type aircraft and default MSFS aircraft, but for GA aircraft from 3rd-party developers or, for example, PMDG 737 series, something like Spadnext may be needed.
@whitedog5128
I see that you’ve changed your mind and no longer want a typical autopilot for GA aircraft. So, if you value more space on your desk, I can recommend the miniFCU.
Home (minicockpit.com)
But if you prefer a more affordable option choose the FCU from Winwing.
You also need to consider whether, in the future, you’ll prefer flying Airbus or Boeing aircraft. If Airbus, then go for the FCU; if Boeing, then get the MCP for example from CoreFlight.
That’s FCU not MCDU. I decided to mention this so that new flight simulator enthusiasts are familiar with the correct terminology from the start.
Logitech works fine for me as well.
Yep, i also dont think it woll be recognised by the sim. So if you have external Hardware, you will end up with SPAD, AAO or Mobiflight etc. anyway one day.
I did get a reply from Winwing and the short answer is no, the FCU only works with certain airliners. Must be a large niche market for them to invest in such a product. Maybe they will do the same for GA.
@TenPatrol , haven’t changed my mind on a similar device for GA , maybe I misspoke.
As others have said, I am trying to reduce the usage of the mouse in the cockpit.
The reply from Winwing:
This is not a simulator issue per se it’s more about the hardware design and compatibility. Don’t fall into the trap that third party software can solve everything because it can’t. An App like SPAD only works with certain hardware. Like many other Apps it can read generic game controllers (HID devices) and others that it may have specific support for such as the Saitek stuff. If the hardware is generic the Sim will also detect it just fine. No third party app required assuming he binds you want are there. It doesn’t even need a Microsoft specific profile it just works.
With a hardware device that is not purely an input device such as something with a display then it’s likely this will need some form of additional driver and support from whatever Apps are trying to interface with it. This applies equally to the sim or 3rd party software. The 3rd party software is just as limited in this scenario.
It’s always best to try and avoid devices that need extra drivers to work but are rather just plug n play out of the box for maximum compatibility. Not always possible though so pre purchase research on compatibility is a must if you don’t want to be disappointed.
I assume they mean with their software solution.
I only did a cursory search, but Mobiflight added support for WinWing earlier in the year, so my guess is you would be able to freely map WinWing buttons to whatever keybind or variable you would like as with all other Mobiflight supported hardware. I don’t know how much work would be needed to get it all set up. Probably lots of people on the Mobiflight Discord server know a lot more about it.
Thanks for your reply!
Can you tell me more about your Logitech?
How long have you had it?
Easy to program for bindings?
Is it the radio stack or the Flight Multi Panel or both? Support from Logitech if you need it?
Thanks for your reply!
One would think that at this stage of flight simming there would be a plug and play device for other than specific aircraft.
Are most people flying airliners? Probably answered in a poll in this forum somewhere.![]()
As I and @HXArdito mentioned earlier, for other aircraft you’ll need third-party software like SpadNext, for example.