How did the world’s most busiest airport not get detailed modeled in FS2020? It’s not even accurate in a generic model. This is a disappointment. ( KATL )
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KATL never gets any love. As far back as I can remember (with any release of flight simulator) it has never been on the we-made-it-better list.
If it makes you feel any better, Princess Juliana (which is awesome because it has the word princess in it) looks like a shadow of its former self from FSX. Even the water color off the airport is trash.
Hi @NorlingOry. I imagine you’re referring to Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson (KATL) since it held the record for most passenger traffic for quite a few years.
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Correction Mr. Moderator - it still holds the record, and has for every year since at least 2010.
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Not going to happen. Imagesim is the one who makes the KATL airport in FS9 and FSX. Keep looking out for them to release KATL, hopefully, in the near furture.
Acting as the primary international airport serving Atlanta, Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport is the busiest airport in the world by passenger numbers and second busiest by aircraft movements.
Total passengers: 110,531,300
Compared to 2018: 2.9 per cent increase
To best honest. The Airport has no charm. Maybe that’s the reason.
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It is kind of interesting how it never makes the cut for the prime developer… I mean the area around the airport is objectively boring. However, I think being the busiest probably qualifies it for extra attention.
For once we agree about something! Look at that we are going to be good friends.
And it does have a TGI Fridays in “E” concourse. Yum.
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KATL is not about charm but about movement. It is the best challenge in the WORLD to fly airliners and try to fly REAL. I live 10 miles away from KATL and it is a charm to see planes, during normal times (no Covid 19) in the air all the time day and night.
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All times of the night sounds less exciting. I hope they have an excellent noise abatement program.
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The most interesting part of the airport is that the taxiway at the departure end of 26L is lower in elevation than the runway (presumably to let aircraft taxi off 26R without interrupting departures off 26L)
Otherwise, it’s pretty mediocre yeah…only Detroit is a marginally less interesting international airport.
Well what are the criteria for making an airport interesting?
I would argue it is architecture + flight characteristics, primarily driven by local terrain.
I can imagine that’s for Airline Pilots a challenge.
They do. You really can not hear much. Most planes takeoff at such a steep angle and by the time they leave the airport perimeter they are very high up. Watch a couple of takeoff videos and see how such a steep angle they takeoff.
Terrain (Vancouver is pretty, Georgia is pretty flat)
Procedures (Noise abatement can be a fun challenge, same with terrain)
Interesting departure procedures
VFR traffic that you have to coexist with (LAX for example)
Complex ground operations can make things interesting
Performance challenges can also be fun (for example Mexico City which has a density altitude of ~10,000 the majority of the year)
Just try to follow along on Flightaware a real flight out of KATL. I have only acheived a good match once from KATL to KCVG where I took off and landed within 5 minutes of the real flight. It is extremely hard using FS9 and FSX ATC with high traffic to takeoff and land on time. I now understand how hard it is in real life to operate at KATL. In the old sim you are always trying to outrun some other flight to the runway and getting stuck in line just like in real life. Watching all the planes landing and trying to takeoff in between mass landings. Begging ATC to go in front of a slow landing plane. I have ignored ATC sometimes and took off without clearance.
Oh I know… I’ve flown KCLT to KATL, and basically as soon as you take off from Charlotte you’re in the STAR. It is a very large, very busy area.
Gotta face harsh reality - KATL itself is architecturally boring, and the terrain of central Georgia is as dull as almost anyplace on Earth. Atlanta is bizarre among most cities in the world, especially one as large as it has become, in that it no navigable rivers or ports.
The only interesting thing about Atlanta to non-locals is the airport volume. As saying in the southern US goes, “When you die around here, no matter where you end up, you’ll still have to change planes in Atlanta.”
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It is interesting that it has 5 parallel runways, (labeled 8/26 L/R, 9/27 L/R, and 10/28). I think only 2 or 3 other airports. Also, one of those actually goes over a highway, along with part of the taxiway. This is modeled horribly is FS2020.
Sadly, that’s not unique to Atlanta. KBNA (Nashville) has a runway (2C/20C) that passes over a major multi-lane surface street toward the southern end, and the two short taxiways to runway 2R/20L pass over another main surface street that runs generally alongside the airport property on the east. In both cases, they are modeled basically flat, with cars either ping-ponging up to and then away from the taxiway or runway, or simply driving across since the roadways aren’t modeled properly as underpasses.