Would you pay per individual building?

So ORBX said they will replace some of the unsightly buildings in the current build of MSFS with their own custom ones, and they would post them in the “marketplace.” I’m not sure if they’ll actually charge for them or not, but would you seriously consider buying individual buildings? I wouldn’t, that’s just ridiculous. Even at 99 cents, i wouldn’t find it convincing enough for me…who cares about individual buildings? If that were the case, we’d invest thousands of dollar potentially on cities…ughhh…

If that’s the case, we are better off creating our own custom buildings and distributing them to the community for free! why not, let’s have a page like Xplane 11, with free mods from the community…we love this hobby, and we won’t be taken to cleaners for stuff we can get for free.

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This is a serious issue and Microsoft needs to make certain it is fixed free of charge. A more serious issue though is functioning avionics.

that marketplace !!! is that for rich peopel only ?
This sim is my first sim ever, and im a BiiiiiiiiiG fan, however what did u simmers do in xplane11 did u just bye everything there was? looks like they expecting u to do so here too !!! man the pricing in marketplace lol they relly dont want me to bye anything it soooo overpriced how can u effort it ? blows my mind, i mean thank god they gave us 20 planes in my standart edition dont really need any more tbh but WHY WHY WHY would i go spent 7+ euros on a plane or 25+ euros on a airport !!
even if i my brain went dead for a min and i would bye and upgrade for my edition it will cost me the same as if i bought 2 standart edition but if i look at a better edition then the standart that i got it only cost lik 30$ doller if i bougt a better edition in the first place but not in market place
Anyhow im sry for the speeling been flying bush trips for too long i hope u all injoy it as much as i do i really dont need anymore…mayb it will be cheaper at Christmas…like 75% cheaper

What you do is find an area you like and tidy it up as in reality you are never going to explore more than 1% in detail so find the less the 1% you like .

The works at 35,000 feet is good enough for point to point so you only need detail when you are going to be landing .

I guess you do not understand how hobby work. This is not just a game to many flight simmer, it is a hobby. You invest your money in hobbies.
Maybe it will be easier for you if i give you examples from other hobbies: if you like fishing and want to fish a Bass, why would you go to different places and spend money travelling if you can fish Bass in a lake near your house? If you are climbing enthusiast, why would you travel and spend money to climb if all you need is one mountain with many different climbing routes. I could give you examples from many different hobbies here.
What is your hobby if I may ask?

I love that you can treat this flight simulator as a game and enjoy flying and sightseeing until you get bored and move onto other games after few weeks. It is fine. But many people are in this for many years to come and new content is necessary. Especially because those people are deeply interested in aviation. They have their beloved planes and they want to fly them. Because they want more functionality in their planes because the planes included in base version are lacking in many aspects.

I hope this will help you to understand. Welcome to the community, whether you are a gamer or a simmer

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Individual buildings, no.

Building packs, like the one they’re already selling, encompassing whole cites…Maybe, but it depends on the city, and the building quality. I haven’t bought the one on the store, because it just isn’t a priority, but I may later.

The store prices are inline or below traditional prices for similar addons for other/previous sims right now, and no, you don’t buy them all, (unless you have some kind of compulsive need to buy every dlc you see). You buy the ones you want, and think you will get sufficient value out of for the money spent.

Many developers also have sales from time to time, and sometimes drop prices permanently, just like any merchant. I’ve gotten stuff from ORBX before at 50% off or more. One just has to keep an eye out. I’m on quite a few developer’s mailing lists just for that reason.

I’m kind of surprised people seem to think this whole 3rd party developer thing is new in sims, or that it’s economy somehow changes just because we have an in game marketplace now. The only real difference between now, and how addons have worked in flight sims for years, is that you don’t have to go shopping around multiple websites to have access to these.

I would pay as much as a plane or an airport is worth, I WILL not pay for an individual building, a farm, maybe street lights, etc…that’s just ridiculous…

Aviation and everything associated with it is my hobby, and I’ve invested thousands and I will continue to invest in it, but some things don’t add to that experience, such as the things I described above, but that’s me, I’m not passing judgment.

i understand what ur saying but they did make this to get more new players too and i was hoping that everyone could get some after they bougt the game

Yes i have a hobby i play pc games atm i will kill myself playing this its so good but in the future i maby would get some more stuf so fare we got a liveri pack wich was free THAT WAS NICE thougt it would be in the market place so Christmas came early :slight_smile: but i still think its overpriced

iknow what u say about hobbys i spent my cash on this PC but i have limets hehe

Iknow its just me and microtransaction we dont go well togheter lol but i was fishing for others opinion and i think i know were u all stand

Exactly. We all have limits too so you understand :slight_smile:
We go for sceneries that we want usually around places we fly. Same with planes. As beautiful as it is, the vanilla MSFS does not include landmarks and you need them to actually recognize the place you know. Just look at this slider comparison on London.

Vanilla looks nothing like London. In other parts of the world it is even worse. There are 3 landmarks in my country (Poland) and many countries do not even have a single one. Other day I was flying in Seoul and I could navigate only because I know the shape of the river, all landmarks were missing. That is a job of 3rd party developers as Absobo cannot create millions of custom 3d models.

If gaming is your hobby, I could say why do you spend your money on other games if this one is perfectly fine. Many flightsimmer have only 1-3 game installed on their computers for years and instead of games they buy add-ons to flight sims worth similar amount what you spend on new games. :slight_smile:
cheers :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Btw. liveries are free, there are already out there on internet. Also there will be a lot of free planes and airports from different 3rd party developers

Iknow iknow iknow m8 the other day i flew bye my house lookt like sjit but it did not bother me AT ALL i know its a flight sim just happy it was there, and yes im counting on free stuff but i still think marketplace is overpriced wich was my point im sooo happy about the grafix in this game (from the air were it should be played)

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I’ll pay good money for a faithfully reproduced aircraft. Scenery I won’t buy, cause I kinda like Bush flights.

But in xplane 11 I loved finding a nice little strip and adding buildings that you could see on satellite and whatever ground objects I saw, then uploading them to their scenery database.

It was nice flying out of a strip I would probably never see again and leaving it better than I found it.

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No, I get it, you think the prices are too high. It’s a fair opinion.

I didn’t buy payware for the longest time. I was fully satisfied with the freeware that could be had, and it took years to convince me that most paid items were good enough for me to invest in personally.

In fact, much of the payware is made by people who originally did the freeware. Many started by literally crafting items in their homes, and sharing the results with the community for free.

Some of these projects take months, and even years to produce.

At some point it was discovered that this work was worth money to other people, and a superior product was worth more than a crappy one. Freeware developers started marketing for profit, and an economy developed around these people.

Some didn’t make the cut, didn’t have the time to do the work, or whatever, and failed. Others became successful companies like ORBX, A2A, etc.

The prices have largely been dictated by what the community is willing to pay over time. There are different levels of quality, and high quality tends to sell for top dollar. It’s up to each of us to decide whether the product offered is worth the price being charged. It’s up to the developer to provide us with things people are willing to buy.

Unfortunately that means that some prices will probably not fit with some people’s wallets. There are plenty of things I won’t buy, or at least won’t pay full price for, preferring to wait for sales instead.

That’s the way of it though. A developer that works half a decade, perfecting some highly detailed aircraft, or airport, isn’t just going to hand it out for the cheap. They’ve had expenses, invested time, and effort. They’re going to charge for the biggest profit possible, like any other manufacturer of goods, and it’s up to us to vote with our wallets accordingly.

We all have our limits, and many of us aren’t rich. The trick is to be a selective, smart shopper.

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Absolutely not for single buildings. And what? Orbx will be uploading individual buildings? That’s mad, fiddly.

I used to dabble in scenery design n xp, and saw a big opportunity in freeware major building replacements and even high quality payware cities.

Give MS time, hopefully theyll fix the worst of the cityscape issues, then freeware developers and the pros can fill the gaps.

I’m thinking of providing a 200 metre tall building in Northcote, Victoria. Oh hang on, that’s already been done!

No no and no , how ridiculous is that we have a half working sim ( bugs and missing key functions from FSX and XPlane 11) and we are reduced talking about buying buildings.

We need to not get sidetracked with this Bingo Bongo world photogrammetry and get bs into flight simming and physics and helicopters and VR.

I think something might have been lost in translation here… Otherwise, Single Buildings? I don’t think they’d recuperate their time/effort as I doubt anyone would buy just 1 building.

I suspect what’s implied here is “Skyline packs” - ORBX have a few of these out already, including Gold Coast and Canberra. I recently purchased Gold Coast for P3D and Gold Coast Airport, given they’re not far from where I live and I wanted to use that area for more flights. I think Skyline packs, if highly detailed have a purpose, especially if ORBX are focussing on areas that don’t yet have accurate 3D detailed modelling from Bing.

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Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s their intention.

I’ve never bought them for P3D, or FSX, but there are a few cities that need help, even with Bing 3D. I might be willing to buy for a few major cities, if they’re detailed enough. Especially if they fix some issues like the horrible cranes in some ports, and other oddities that Bing and the Ai doesn’t handle so well.

Certainly not. I would expect the marketplace to also allow free, approved addons however.

Btw, indeed something has been lost in translation. ORBX never claimed that they want to sell buildings. They said that London landmarks included 400 custom building for 6 pounds which account 0.02 cent per building… they just wanted to express the amount of 3d modelling and texturing that went into making it versus the price for the whole package.

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I should have mentioned, Their Australia V2 includes the Melbourne Skyline pack which is a nice addition.

Unless a city or region is particularly awful, I’m going to remain focussed on Aircraft and Airports in this Sim, given that it’s been implied that MSFS (and Bing Maps) are a long term evolution product at this point and I suspect the 3D Modelling of skylines and regions will only improve over time.

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