Your Current TOP 10 Aircraft

Great idea

  1. Milviz Cessna 310 - I’ll snag this before the year’s end based on the excellent reviews. I’m in need of a study level steam gauge GA plane and the 310 fits the bill, especially with the save state and other options. I will likely skip the 414 since I prefer lower sightseeing with GA.

  2. Marwan’s HondaJet - I recently snagged the Cirrus VisionJet so the HJet may be a bit redundant, but I’m still intrigued enough by the two engines and different workflow to add it to my hangar. It may fill the gap between the VisionJet and the CJ4.

  3. Just Flight PA-28 Arrow - Also in the market for a single prop steam gauge plane that’s not a Cessna, to practice fundamentals with. I realized I’ve become way too comfortable with glass cockpits and autopilot. Hoping the Arrow is a good fit.

  4. Some other military jet than the default F/A-18 for high speed fun

  5. Some older plane similar to the recent DHC-2 Beaver or the DC-3. Maybe the PMDG DC-6…?

  6. The eventual SWS RV-10

  7. The eventual SWS PC-12

  8. The eventual DA-50

Any recommendations are welcome.

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Depending on what else you own, iff only getting the one JF PA28, consider either the Turbo Arrow for better performance at altitude and for long range cruising OR for low and slow the Warrior II. I have all the JF PA28 and tend to use the Warrior II the most, the Turbo Arrow less often but still regularly and the Standard Arrow the least.

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  1. Buy this before anything else. Must have.

  2. Good plane. I wouldn’t rank it this high on your list if you already have the Vision.

  3. Good plane. I have started using the Got Friends Optica for this stuff. It does low and slow. Does steam. Has a great flight model that WILL bite you if you aren’t careful. Has a dog and a cat. AND has GPS and AP if you want to go for a longer trip in it once in a while.

  4. JF Hawk? Most military jets are a bit GTA. Fun but not entirely real. Like, the F-35 is a blast! But the plane itself is almost too good to be much of a challenge to learn. And being top secret, the system modeling is based on educated guesswork.

  5. That DC-6 is probably your safest bet. The BR Goose also fits this bill. And the Hellcat is worth a look. All FlyingIron planes are. Those old warbirds can be more accurate than the newer ones because their secrets are public!

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Thank you both for the quick feedback!

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Thanks for the reply. Hmm I might just see if digital santa can ask his binary-elves to put the right sequence of 1’s and 0’s together and stuff them down my cat6-chimney :slight_smile:

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If it’s just for fun (well, it all is but you know what I mean) I’d go with the F-22 premium. The stuff that plane can do is bonkers with the thrust vectoring. You can get away with being totally nuts and it just pulls out of it. It is pretty incredible and good fun doing some super tight U-turns and almost hovering with high AoA. But you can also just fly it regular fast and it’s so agile when you need it. Definitely unique.

EDIT: buuut yea as @WellREDBarron said, the Hawk. It’s proper hands-on plane. Still fast enough but not quite pushing Mach unless you’re downhill with the wind behind you, so depends what you want / mean by “fast” :wink:

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It’s not really anything like the Beaver. More like the DC-3 for sure but the quality is high and every trip is a proper experience even if you use the AFE chappie.

I hope they do come back to support it after their focus on the 737 airlines. Heard the latest update broke something else but I didn’t update (yet)…

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I meant more like, “ones that are already out but you didn’t buy yet for some reason”. So why didn’t you get 1 and 2?

I rarely fly the DC-6 these days but every time I do, I fall in love.

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This is a game I’d gladly play.

I’m 36 with 20 years experience, have one hell of a setup, and can play just about anything on guitar.

BRING. IT. ON. :grinning::+1:

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I’m about to switch credit cards and my pay pal is set up for a different older card so I wasn’t able to order anything off PMDG and I couldn’t find the option to use discover on the md 80

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:slight_smile: …you talking about the Wilga? :guitar:

So, gonna play? What’s your unbought planes that you keep considering?

One more from me I forgot about. That Ka-10M twin rotor weird Russian helicopter. It’s only a fiver and might be fun but it just looks so fugly!!

EDIT: whoops sorry yeah I see you were replying to that YT post haha. Umm yea, I’ll set up an Air Guitar channel then and put everyone’s clips on there!

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Yea, that’s excatly what I meant. The F-22 sounds perfect and might bail me out when I get too gutsy flying in the Grand Canyon or something. I wouldn’t want a DCS-level fighter in MSFS, so your description is spot-on.

Some of the old warbirds look fun but I would fly them very little compared to the rest of the hangar.

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Yea it’s a good one. You definitely can get into trouble, and when it falls it just falls, but even in those situations, if you TRY and save it (and not purposefully make things worse), often you can still scrape by alive. The FBW computer clearly thinks a lot quicker than you or I could lol

There is a ‘No FBW’ version, that actually I haven’t tried yet. Will have to rectify that soon!

Not sure what that even means? You really couldn’t fly these jets without FBW and the flight computers. They’re inherently unstable and moving the stick moves multiple control surfaces in concert to make the plane move accordingly.

I’m sure you meant something different and I’m just a smart***. So apologies :laughing:

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My feedback on your TO BUY LIST, biased towards the planes I own, only if to make me feel better about my purchase, and biased against the planes I do not own, only if to make me feel better about my purchase rejection.

2.) Vision Jet. I don’t know how they did it - beautiful model but no hit on my FPS. And I have a low-end CPU/GPU. It’s a fun plane and I do fly it a lot, but somewhat disappointed by the large number of INOP buttons and functionality. Not to mention that they forgot (just plain forgot and admit to that, at least) to include OBS functionality. How could the developers and the (supposed) real life pilot testers have missed this? They say none of them uses VORs to fly so they forgot to implement. I know VOR is a technology on its way out now that we have GPS, but still, some of us like to play with those features. Big OOPS that makes me a little nervous about the developers going forward. Also, I can’t get VNAV to work. It does have Auto Throttle like the big boys (airliners that I don’t fly) so this is my chance to play with it.

2a.) HondaJet. I bought this before the Vision Jet and was asking myself if I really needed to get the Vision Jet because they are pretty similar. They are. But they have different use cases for me. The Vision Jet is like a family GA plane with a jet engine. The HJet is a mini business jet. The developer MG did a great job, included all the functionality and I don’t think there are any INOP buttons. VNAV works great, there’s a big new update coming that makes VNAV work with all SIDs and STARs, aboves/belows/ats and even speed restrictions, so that will be fun to play with. The HondaJet is faster than the Vision Jet, 420kts to 311kts, I think it is, so you can do longer trips in the same hour-ish that I like to fly. I don’t regret having both the HJet and the Vision Jet.

3.) 737. Not my kind of plane either, but wouldn’t mind at least learning about commercial jets. And I have personally flown in 737s more than any other plane. I have the CRJ from Aerosoft, but I never fly it. It is a regret purchase, honestly. But back to the 737… Hopefully when the 737-900 is released, PMDG will do a sale on the other models, like they did when the -800 came out. The -600 is toooooooo small and weird looking and was never used by my local airline, Southwest, so I never flew it. Southwest flies the -700, so that’s likely the one I personally would pick up, but only on sale. I have never spent more than US$36 on a plane.

7.) King Air Analog. MUST BUY. This is not just some “added stuff”. This is a steam gauge dream plane. Lots of functionality, speed, pilot attention needs, etc. It just goes. I think it was in my last TOP 5 and will definitely be in my year-end.

8.) Piaggio P149D. I own this and won’t buy the Globe Swift for the same reason as you, just the reverse.

9.) Bonanza V-Tail, 170B, Aviat Husky. The V-Tail and Husky are must buys, imho. The 170B is fun, but I could do without it. I have a lot of similar planes in categories that I like to fly: touring and bush. The V-Tail fits the former, the Husky the latter.

10.) Trislander. Didn’t purchase for the same reason as you. I love the Islander! The Trislander seems like a funky interesting plane, but just too similar for me.

11.) Piper Warrior II. MUST BUY. Even if you think you have too many similar planes. The Arrows (which I have) and the modded Bonanza G36 are fast touring planes in my book. The Warrior II is a medium speed sightseeing plane, something to do circuits with, lots of VFR. It’s a really great plane. Sure, all of the Arrows and the Warrior II could do with a refresh, but I love flying them just as they are. If this matters, I picked up the Sting S4 as my modern glass alternative to the Warrior II. So now I have steam and glass planes to practice circuits and do low-level VFR.

Done!

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I keep hearing love for the Warrior II. I have the other Arrows and like them a lot, specifically the Turbo Arrow III. But I already have a bunch of high wing GA planes and bush planes. Concerned about the low wing and cockpit visibility.

You already know the view with your other Pipers.

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One of the things with the Warrior is really that it is what many of us (in UK) trained in, if your aero club doesn’t have Cessnas, more than likely you will start with the PA28 (Warrior or similar). The Arrows are “complex”, ie. Retractable landing gear and a controllable pitch propeller. Irl training you won’t do “complex” for a while.

So, I guess, if you want to fly something that is a common first stage trainer irl then the Warrior is your girl.

And it is indeed pretty accurate, although apparently there’s a tweaked version arriving soon to sort out some of the more recent inaccuracies caused by sim updates/additions. :slight_smile:

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Well, there is one without FBW sitting next to it in the hangar that you get when you install the plane. I’ll let you know tonight if it’s at all flyable :slight_smile: