2024 Controls Interface Discussion

My guess is:
General controls = Non-aircraft (external view look left)
Airplane controls = all Aircraft (throttle axis)
Specific controls = specific to a particular aircraft (747 throttle 1,2,3,4)

So, I guess in a 747 you could have one throttle set to throttle axis that will move all 4 throttles and another 4 throttles to individually move each throttle.

But then, I can do that now with one profile, airplane, like I use with FS2020.
So for me, there does not seem to be any use for the 3 categories.

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The only use case I’ve been able to come up with that’s not already covered by binding one physical button to multiple different actions in different aircraft (ie. dump water in a firefighter, spray crops in another, turn on smoke in an aerobatic plane, etc.) would be if you want different axis sensitivity curves in different airplanes.

I mean, I guess there might be people who want the flaps to be controlled by this joystick hat in this plane and by that throttle hat in that plane, but should we really be catering to that kind of madness?

And this for me is the biggest failing of the new controls systems, and it’s a huge failing.

The curves are saved on the general category profile and not the plane specific one. This is a major flaw for me because it means we can’t have different curves for different planes, or even have different curves for rotary vs fixed wing.

Yet the curves routinely need to be tweaked for each plane. The Kodiak is calibrated for use with a long travel yoke but I have a joystick and it’s uncontrollable with default curves. For the Airbus I want different curves as that’s designed to be used with a joystick. And for helis I need linear curves to stimulate a cyclic.

I don’t know if anyone’s raised a feature/bug for this yet, if not I’ll get around to it.

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Think you’re under the wrong impression here. If you’re adjusting axes using the ‘hardware settings’ then yes, those apply globally.

However, if you use this:

Followed by this:

The adjustments will only apply to that specific binding in that profile.

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Oh I missed the “tweak action curve” button! I shall try that out, sounds like it might solve the problem. Thanks!

Still, if I have a ‘props’ profile in the airplane category then I can still only have one at of curves for all prop planes, which is still the same problem on a smaller scale.

Because Asobo have predetermined which category each control goes in and we can’t change it that means we cannot set plane specific curves for the main axes still.

I wish they hadn’t invented this category system, if they had simply created the ability to have parent profiles and then allow overrides, ie. using a 2 or 3 level hierarchy, this thing would have been easier to use and much more flexible.

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This is what I was expecting as well. It seemed to be what Seb was suggesting in the video from a few months back (was under the impression other people thought likewise), so dunno what changed.

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One example of the aircraft specific section is the Cessna 172 Skyhawk fitted with a G1000. In other words, a unique bit of avionics in a plane.

Set Filter to None and type PFD in the search bar. This is what you get:

Every G1000 PFD control.

So you could bind spare joystick buttons to change the PFD baro setting.

With a bit of creativity you could bind F1 to F12 on the keyboard to be the G1000 menu buttons on the PFD.

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Yet this is also flawed, because it means having to bind G1000 controls independently for each aircraft which uses it.

Presumably the same applies for similar avionics devices.

Can you tell us how do you do in the control meny for using Spad next.
I am using it in fs2020 and works flawless there, but I can not get it work in fs2024, though I downloaded the new Lvar.

No, I could add “My new 172 skyhawk profile” to multiple planes that had a G1000 using “Apply to all planes”.

Better to rename it “Asobo G1000 profile” of course.

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The quick answer is you probably don’t need Spad.Next

Apologies, was under the impression that aircraft specific profiles were only available for that particular plane. It’s is kinda what the name implies :slight_smile:

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Ok. So if I want to binding assignments to i.e Inibuilds A330 in my keyboard.
I duplicate the original profil and name it Inibuiild A330. I config the cockpit views and some other assignments.
But, here is the question.
How do I do in the wheel to the right of the profile???
Do I mark it as Default and Save for All Aircraft. I want that this profile is for all variants of the A330 as the cockpit view is the same for these A330
Or do I have to make profiles for all variants of A330 and Save each profile as default.
I have not succeed to save any profile according to keyboard profiles.
Or do I need to do anything in the wheel
at all??

I just checked it for real and there seems to be a bug - surprise, surprise! :grinning:

The G1000 PFD setting seems to follow the Airplanes Controls “My 172 Profile”

Maybe “Specific…controls” is literally one plane only.

Click the left < or right > buttons to scroll through the list of Airplanes Controls.

Not very intuitive but it looks like the Airplanes controls can be shared across multiple planes. I haven’t tested it though.

But my question was if I have to assign
Default or All Aircraft or nothing at all sto save this profile for all my A330.
Or do I need to make a specific profile for each variat???

Sorry I don’t know the answer at the moment. I just know the middle option is available on all planes.

I was under the impression that setting as default will set that profile to be the start point for any new aircraft that is added to the sim.

Save for all aircraft would push that profile to every aircraft in the game that you have.

If the individual A330 variants can’t/don’t use the same A330 profile, then duplicate and name as appropriate.

The profile that is currently active is what will be saved with that aircraft.

Like in my case, I’ve made a “Single Engine Constant Speed” profile for my Honeycomb Bravo for those types of single piston engine aircraft with constant speed props.

Whenever I load into one that I haven’t loaded into before, I open the control settings and select the Single Engine Constant Speed profile and close the control settings. That profile is now saved to that aircraft.

When I first loaded into a twin, I duplicated that profile and renamed it “Twin Engine Constant Speed” added the second throttle, mixture & prop axis and closed the control settings. Now that is saved to that twin and I can select that profile for the next twin I load into for the first time.

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I make use of this topic to ask for help. I created “My XXX profile” for several aircraft by duplicating the original one “None”, and my intention is to create diferent internal views for those aircraft. When I have done it, all seem to have the same camera positions.

Thanks a lot. I will try that.

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