Can somebody give a brief assessment on how the fenix 320 performs in may 2023. Compared to fbw and pmdg 737. I do not have the best system atm but the latter two work ok mostly and the fps are ok for me.
The runway numbering probably comes from the default airport in the sim, which has not been updated so far as I know. If there is a third-party airport add-on for SKBO with new runway numbers, that might fix it. I don’t know how long ago the runway numbering changed. Also, are you using current nav data for the Fenix, or the default nav data that came with the aircraft at release?
Today I went back to FBW A32NX. I had not flown it for a year. It has pleasantly surprised me. At this moment, we can compare it, in simulation level, with any Aerosoft product, for example. Obviously, is far from Fenix level, but it has some features that are better than the Fenix: better TCAS, better terrain on ND, better takeoff handling, better handling at low speeds and on approach, better behavior (and speed) in descent mode, it feels heavier (Fenix is too influenced by winds and thermals, in my opinion. It doesn’t seem to weigh 50 tons). Hope they can fix these issues in v2. A free addon shouldn’t beat Fenix at anything, but it actually does in some aspects.
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Yes, I use a third-party one and the runway numbers are correct (updated) there.
in my post above, I already indicated that the latest airac (navigraph) data for fenix and sim is used.
If the runways for an airport in MSFS are not the same as the runways in the currently active Navigraph data, then the Navigraph data is normally not applied, with things like SIDS and STARS not being available.
That can occur sometimes, because a runway has simply not been included for the airport in MSFS, but I am guessing that it can also happen where the existing runways, in the more-up-to-date nav data, have been renamed.
As has been suggested, while waiting for MS to correct the issue, fixes for this can often be downloaded from flightsim.to, perhaps in the form of a freeway airport update. These can effectively add the missing runway(s) and align the airport with the current navdata.
You missed the point. I don’t mind waiting 6 months or longer. Just don’t tell me it’s “coming soon”.
It will be interesting to see how much of a performance effect will the EFB bring on PMDG.
Exactly because they believe that they have been on the table efb for a year in the 737 and without being able to open the cabin door, because the fps performance drops, and of course that is not good for business.
As this is the Fenix topic, that is better asked in the PMDG topic.
I’m more interested in the performance increases due to the rewriting of their display rendering pipeline that will hopefully bring this: “reduced the cockpit memory usage by over 50% with a slight boost in quality/detail”.
The new engine isn’t the be-all-and-end-all for me, personally speaking. Improved takeoff, descent and landing are.
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Does anyone know how to map AP altitude selector to a joystick? I mapped Autopilot Reference Altitude in control settings. It works in PMDG737 but not in Fenix A320. Same with HDG bug selector.
Wow!, the lights casting real time shadowing truly catched my eye!!,
“Taxiing out to the runway, the wing and engine subtly moving about as you cross ruts in the tarmac, watching the lights come to life one by one casting unique shadows and lensing effects, really is something to see.” 
is such an incredible detail and demonstrates how mad at details the Fenix team is, just BRAVO!. Hope this to become an standard for the sim from now on. I would not hesitate to say that this is one of the most incredible and detailed simulation of an aircraft for home evironement ever made.
Keep it up guys!, thanks for your true passion.
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In the end it is also important that it fits in terms of performance! What’s the use of the best toys if it just doesn’t work out in terms of performance.
All such gimmicks must ultimately be calculated by the Mainthread and I hope they don’t end up far behind competing products like they are now…Whereby it’s running great with current hardware. Immediately after the release it was a catastrophe and could be applied for.
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I think saying that the update will be released before August is playing it quite safe in this case. It’s just my personal estimate, of course. Personally, I hope it will be released in June or, at the latest, in July.
The post is extensive, explaining in detail how they approach the performance increase. Literally there, and someone answers back something about “main thread”. Read the full post!
Performance at release was good, really good compared to neo freeware. Some users didn’t have that. Which doesn’t make it a general rule.
Was updated several times and its performance increased. You won’t get a good experience using a 9 years old hardware…
Some things that need to be corrected are being addressed in that post to be implemented in V2 update.
Those minor things still don’t make it “fall behind competing products”, “like they are now”(?)
Which one? The one that makes their customers think that 20 updates is synonymous of a well developed product despite no efb, that needs low resolution textures, 20fps animations and several systems simulation shortcuts to keep a good performance?
Or the freeware? Freeware is not competing against this, and vice versa.
For each their own.
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This makes no sense. It has nothing to do with users’ hardware. The problem arises when compared to other 3rd party aircraft (PMDG 737, JF 146, and Leonardo’s MD-80) and the Fenix is by far the worst in terms of performance.
Just because you don’t have that issue doesn’t mean the majority or a significant portion of users don’t experience it. The A320 is poorly optimized in terms of CPU, and Fenix knows it better than anyone, which is why they made the decision to invest months of development into V2.
The solution cannot be “just spend 300-800€ on a better CPU lol” when other aircraft in the same range are performing much better on the same system. Fortunately, they are aware of this. And this is practically a quote from their latest post because it is exactly like that.
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tbf, fenix wanted to put a lot of detail in their rendition of a320, pmdg simply does not fall in the same category as the fenix.
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I have both and I agree with you, but considering the type of product, price range and target audience, I still consider it a fair comparison. I don’t know which one is more faithful to their respective real aircraft, but I do know that the Fenix is a much more complex product than the PMDG.
“The problem arises when compared to other 3rd party aircraft (PMDG 737, JF 146, and Leonardo’s MD-80) and the Fenix is by far the worst in terms of performance.”
But you seem to forgot to mention that, as a logic trade off, the Fenix is way above these in terms of detail, quality and simulation, so not a fair comparison. For me, the extra performance needed to run it would mostly be justified.
On top of that, they are doing all in their power to make the aircraft to run better for us, even providing us details about what they are doing and why they think the aircraft could run at more fps, so I couldn’t be happier with the fenix team and the product.
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I have to disagree.
Saying that the Fenix is above all in terms of detail, quality, and simulation seems quite bold to me. Honestly, based on everything I’ve read from experts and seen (I haven’t purchased it because I’m not interested in the aircraft, to be honest), that honor goes to the Leonardo MD-80.
The thing is, simulating a MD-80 or a 737 at a high level is not the same as simulating an A320 at the same level, as the latter is a much more modern and complex aircraft in terms of systems. However, none of that justifies such a massive difference in performance.
Nevertheless, I don’t see the point in arguing about this. Fenix itself has implicitly acknowledged this by slowing down most of its development to rebuild this project and future ones on a much more solid and stable foundation (V2). It was simply impossible for a completely new developer to come out of nowhere and have their product as polished from day one as, let’s say, PMDG, which has been building its code for around 20 years.
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And I forgot to mention one detail; for me, the Fenix has by far the greatest potential looking ahead two years. It’s just that the Leonardo MD-80 is the most complete one as of today (in terms of fidelity and simulation accuracy to the real aircraft, facilities, details, available variants and expansions, polish… of course, it also has its weak points, like the price or maybe its graphics, but I see the other aspects as more important).
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I’m having some problem with the fenix crashing to desktop
sometimes the frames drop by a significant amount with no apparent reason (may occur while crusing and with a solid 60 fps) and then proceed to crash if alt tabbing (which seems to be usually the final straw)
I’m quite confused since it usually come while I’m experiencing solid performance, it feels almost like there’s something in the background triggering this huge performance loss leading to crash
anyone experiencing/ed this? I jumped late to the fenix party so it may be a known “effect”
thanks!