We received an E Mail from the Aeroplane Heaven Help Desk 2 days ago when we enquired about the progress of their In coming Aircraft.
“Things are progressing nicely for us. Got a few things rattling around”
We’re also looking forward to the DC 3 and were going to wait for this Aircraft and not purchase the PMDG DC 6. You have a difficult choice between these Iconic Aircraft and the PMDG DC 6 is a truly Stunning addition to the Sim.
If you can find the money and time needed to Pilot the DC 6 by the time our beloved DC 3 comes along you will have learned how to Manage 4 engines and the DC 3 will be a Doddle.
Give up that Extra Cup of Coffee. Sell the Wife and Kids and find the Money to enjoy Both !
How many fps do you get on the ground and during takeoff in cockpit view?
I have a i7 9800X and in my experience the aircraft is pretty CPU heavy. I get about 40 fps from external view but in the cockpit it drops to about 20 fps with dips to 15 fps during takeoff.
The further away you are from the ground the better the fps get with this plane.
I’ll need to check for you as I don’t have exact numbers at the moment.
What I can tell you is that from cold & dark in Macau (w/SamScene 3D’s add-on) to landing, parking and shutting off I didn’t experience any stutter or delay.
the CRJ is not complex. all you have to do is type in the route and that’s mostly about it. The rest can be done automagically through the tablet.
it is a sort of “stick and rudder” airliner. no autothrottle, RNAV approaches have to be flown by hand on finals.
it is a very different thing respect to an a320 or even b737
this DC-6 is the kind of aircraft that I do like, but I’m struggling to find the use case for it. It just feels wrong landing it at LSZH or LIML, LEBL, etc.
I know some DC-3s are still flying (even in europe! https://www.classicformation.com/planes) and I remember Classic Wings used to fly DC-3s and Ju-52s out of LSZH in recent years…but I still struggle to understand what I would do with a classic 6000nm 4 piston engine liner.
My favorite use for it is to fly cargo in out-of-the-way places - Alaska (with Everts), the Caribbean (using JanKees’ TAL paint), Africa, South America.
The passenger version also makes a nice executive transport - you can fly it the way Rob Randazzo flies his DC-3. Much more of a conversation-starter on the ramp than your average Citation.
I can also imagine a modern airline like Delta or KLM flying a commemorative version for promotional purposes. That’d be a way to fly a classic paint with modern radios or even the GPS.
It fits well in the present, or the recent past - sometimes requires a little imagination… but not that much..
@MagicTheMarker just started a new flight - VMMC with roughly the same conditions as last time. in and out of the cockpit with engines running I get a steady a steady 29,9 FPS (remember that I run limited a 30), it stays pegged there (did a microflight VMMC-VHHH).
The dev frame counter actually spikes prior to starting a flight, just selecting things in the menu, but this must be a whole different issue.
I am a DC-3 lover. I cannot wait to have a DC-3 in MSFS. I would pay whatever for a high quality study level DC-3.
However at this moment the only study level piston engine aircraft that we have in MSFS is the PMDG DC-6 and this one is keeping me happily flying and studying manuals since it was released.
The DC-6 is one of the best add-ons I have seen in my PC.
I have flown the DC-6 about 25 hours in about 9 flights since it was released. Basically flying daily the DC-6
I will probably be only flying DC-6 until we do get a high quality DC-3 and that that time the DC-6 will be most likely be „mothballed“ for long time.
I am hoping that Aeroplane Heaven produces such quality DC-3 however since the „spitfire inccident“ they just mentioned that they will give priority to the DC-3 but no further information has been released so I have no idea if the release of their DC-3 is inminent or if it will happen in 2025. Aeroplane Heaven is keeping too quiet about their new priority project, the DC-3
MSFS is simulator to enjoy by flying low and slow and the DC-3 is for me the best aircraft for that.
But on the meantime I am enjoying every minute with the awesome PMDG DC-6
The Aeroplane Heaven DC-3 for P3D was a very nice product once it got past some teething problems. I’d be happy to buy it for MSFS. That said, my real affection was for the great Manfred Jahn/Jan Visser freeware C-47. One of the all-time greats - could easily have been payware.
I’ll be happy to have a DC-3 in my hangar. But the minute PMDG comes out with one - I’m guessing 2022 or 2023 from the hints they’ve dropped - that becomes my DC-3 of choice.
Am also looking forward to Aerosoft’s Twin Otter to fill out my stable of outsider airplanes…
As others pointed out, very different airplanes. The DC-3 is much simpler and feels more like a WW2 transport. Most pilots compare it to a tractor. The DC-6 has much more performance and for the time newer technology.
The topic is a bit hypothetical as the DC-3 is not even available for testing.
You should get the DC-6. It is an unbelievable product and in a few years probably every new player will ask you how it was when you had the DC-6.
Also even if you don’t have the money now, until the DC-3 is ready it should be different.
So is Aeroplane Haven still on the DC-3 for MSFS? On their facebook there is only bickering about the Spitfire but nothing much else. I could not care less for another warbird, but something to OnAir/ FSEconomy around like a DC-3…hmmm
So I am kind of worried it has not been mentioned in a while. Seeing how they snapped at their customers asking question I am also not the one to ask them though ^^
Who knows? They also updated their profile picture to the Spitfire a few days ago. With a “Coming Soon” text. This whole thing made me not take anything they say seriously anymore. It’s like this - if/when they release something, it will be a pleasant surprise. But to take any of their announcements seriously is a surefire route to disappointment.
People could cut them some slack over the Spitfire.
First of all there IS already a Spitfire for MSFS. Second it is obvious they ran into some problems, so it could be much more professional to not release it. Third, it is possible that 1+2 together mean they have postponed it so they can work on the DC-3 and release that first. There is no other DC-3 in sight and it has a much bigger sales potential. Plus they might avoid certain mistakes they had made in the Spitfire.
Releasing a second Spitfire does not look great for sales but is possible. But releasing a Spitfire that has issues after another is already out would be a tragedy.
Nice shots, but a heads up, you are likely reading your CPU and GPU usage wrong like many people. Never go by the overall CPU percentage number with this sim, as the sim is limited to a few cores of your processor it can’t use more than that so usage won’t go higher, you need to look at the cores themselves in Task Manager. It’s not a situation where the sim doesn’t need more CPU power, it simply can’t use it, and because it’s maxing out those cores that’s holding back the GPU and that’s why the usage is low there too, the GPU would be maxing out to give you the most FPS it can if it wasn’t being held back.
Things have changed a bit since SU5 came out though so the CPU isn’t being hammered so much and so isn’t holding back the GPU, but with my high end system the PMDG DC-6 is absolutely making a difference to that and hammering the CPU enough so it’s limiting the GPU once again, so much that I’m losing around 15 to 20 FPS over a default aircraft.
The best thing to do is watching at least two hours of YouTube reviews and let the feeling mood and atmosphere a plane gives off as vibes crawl into you, and buy based on your gut-feeling which one you would like and enjoy more
Oh and thanks for telling me about this awesome plane - I did not know it even exist!
Wow I should buy both some day the DC3 and DC6…
