Description of the issue:
At an un-towered airports I’m seeing GA traffic stuck on the runways, taxiways, and hovering in air.
From being used to FR24 data I suspect this is where pilots are turning off their transponders and this sim is just keeping them in place? If the transponders go off the airplanes should just disappear or flow into the apron.
FREQUENCY OF ISSUE
Most of the time
How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
Most of the time
REPRODUCTION STEPS
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Live traffic on
Fly in and out of a busy un-towered airport
Airplanes are often stuck on the runways, on taxiways, and just 20 - 80 feet just before touchdown.
YOUR SETTINGS
Real time AI traffic is on.
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MSFS2020 live traffic isnt actual live. In 2020 they changed to method to have timetables from source and sim just injected airplanes. Like FSLTL does. Im not familiar with the MSFS2024 live traffic yet, but i assume it is not actual live traffic. If it is, that may be the case with hovering aircraft. FR24 doesent show fluid motion of aircraft in the ground, only in the air.
It’s definitely different and I quite like it so far! I even flew a pattern behind an airplane I’ve flown IRL. All the traffic was taking off and landing on the correct runway and following the pattern. Models are usually wrong though.
It looks like raw FR24 data to me. I think the airplanes are just sticking where the ADSB feed drops. I kind of wonder if instructors are turning off their transponders right away.
The airport I sim out of is also un-towered, which I think impacts the sim’s logic some. At a towered airport I think they would take direction from the AI tower. MSFS has never implemented the non-tower AI correctly. Mostly the AI airplanes wonder around aimlessly.
Just witnessed aircraft landing diffrent runway from totally diffrent direction. I am pretty sure this is same “based on fr24 data as schedules, not by gps data” method.
I just saw the same. The difference today was the winds were calm. I couldn’t make any sense out of what was going on with the traffic. The other day there were sustained winds that had favor to a specific runway.
I did observe one airplane that was doing touch and goes, in the sim it looked more like go arounds.
I’m primarily flying out of an uncontrolled airport, which probably would act a little different.
After more time it does look to me like real traffic airplanes are getting stuck where the transponders are being turned off. That’s kind of cool we are getting that level of real-time but something needs to be done when the transponder signal is lost.
I have been commonly seeing real air traffic stuck just past the hold lines, which is often where they get turned off.
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