Aimless Wandering

Feel free to explain why the nose points to the wind during a crosswind landing then. You are not on ground and you can have trim already set but aircraft still points to wind. What´s the magic behind it? I will skip the laminar flow extravaganza for the time being.

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Why is the nose pointing to the wind? Because you are steering it in that direction! There are absolutely zero natural forces that turn flying aircraft into the wind.

Sorry that´s not correct. Just a quick search drops this result. This is not explained by me, as it appears I´m saying crazy things. So if you need an instructor to say the same thing there it is:

There are natural forces causing this for sure (the lateral wind component) and there´s a natural tendency of airplanes to yaw into crosswind as well. And this is not happening on ground only nor is caused by landing gear or any misty or complex effect.

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This is not about landing, which is specifically piloting an aircraft with respect to the ground rather than the aiflow.

Similar for a helicopter hovering over a fixed point on the ground in any sort of wind. It’s not hovering in the air, but actually flying through it. If it was literally hovering in moving air it would move across the ground.

I can appreciate that this isn’t the most straightforward concept to understand, but you’re simply not getting it. How many people need to tell you this?

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Someone that is not saying those atrocious explanations about landing gears to be the reason for nose pointing into the wind or pointing into the wind only happening on ground, even after an instructor says a completely different thing in the video I just posted.

An helicopter yaws into wind as well because it also has a tail. Airplanes do the same thing as it´s cristal clear explained in the video. That´s the only basic concept which needs to be understood here. Is this really understood by everyone participating in this post? I understand it at least.

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I really don’t know how to put this in simpler terms. With regards to aerodynamics, for any aircraft in flight there is no such thing as ‘wind’. It will behave in exactly the same manner regardless of what direction or speed the air is moving.

Wind only becomes relevant when flying with respect to the ground. You may need to compensate for it when flying flying from one point to another (by changing heading, airspeed or both), or attempting to land.

Dude… That’s another aberration. Wind affects airplanes during all phases of flight. It’s more relevant during landing because it can add a lateral deviation which will you put out of the runway centerline but wind exists also at high altitudes. And wind also exists in the form or gusts or hurricanes which are really relevant as you can imagine.

If you depart north with your trim set to north and you don’t touch it anymore once you start to have any relevant lateral wind your airplane will not fly in a straight line to the north forever unless you retrim it once you face that wind.

Test it in game with a custom preset and add a 30kts wind at your cutrent altitude afterwards. You will see how the initial trim setting is not helping at all as soon as that new and relevant wind component is added. If you trace your path with littlenavmap tool for instance it won’t result in a straight line.

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Of course, no one here doubts that wind effects the ground track of the airplane!

You see some “magic” in what we are talking about where in fact there is none. It is just simple physics, as you put it.

I don’t expect you to trust us random guys from the internet, but please just read through the chapter in “Stick and Rudder”, then you will probably understand what we are trying to say. It might also clear up some terminology problems that produce misunderstandings here. Feel free to contact me via PM for further discussion. I think this has gone far too off-topic already.

So back to the topic:
I tried this out with the 152 and let got of the controls after trimming it out. It started a shallow bank (and turn) more or less 270° then levelling out again etc. So not too different from what was shown on the screenshot. In fact it was more stable than I expected, it did not dive or climb rapidly and the turns stayed shallow.

@InaudibleYeti1 Would be interesting to know when you let go of the controls and how long you let it fly afterwards.

Stop feeding the troll.

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What troll dude? Watch the video. Is that instructor a troll as well? She is explaining as well as I did what happens, while you have your own opinion about what you think it should happen. I think that video is quite clear so even a camper can understand it.

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OK folks, time to stop the personal back and forth comments.
Please keep posts to the topic at hand

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