I see mention of this issue on Discord. Normally they’ll patch these issues in one of the next updates.
i’ve found it very good… i have most recently been flying around the caribbean where traffic density is less, but previously i was in florida, orlando and miami and it was very satisfying with everything set on max… i enjoy the atc chatter and when on teh ground the sequencing was pretty good… had to wait for push back at san juan and got caught in a queue for take off at miami… but all worked as you’d expected and it is quite immersive havingn to wait for other traffic, if you have the patience… which i just about managed… am in 2020 still
The weird speed instructions has been a thing for a couple weeks actually - this past weekend, I was told to expect a certain STAR and arrival runway, but hadn’t yet reached TOD nor advised I was beginning descent. Still in cruise at FL380, I was instructed to increase speed to 290 knots. I was already doing M 0.87 and showing about 273 KIAS, which was less than 10 knots from the red band. No way was I going to try to increase speed at all under those circumstances, nor would ATC ever have actually requested it in real life.
Since BATC doesn’t have an “Unable” reply, I just ignored it and continued until my TOD, announced I was ready to descend, and continued on as normal.
Very few planes at large airports, and smaller ones are packed. I have to change the settings before I land when going from big to small airports, i.e. LAX to JAC or PSP.
Actually, I just flew into KSMY and noticed 6 jets lined up for takeoff, which is a bit much for that airport (although none actually took off). What do you use for settings at large / small airports for optimum traffic?
Hey guys. Got a couple questions before I decide to buy. With 2024 not giving an option to opt out of a walk around, am I able to start a flight somewhere else, on the apron, taxiway or even at the runway so I can bypass the walk around while using Beyond ATC? And you must always use Simbrief for flight planning? I’ve just started researching Beyond ATC. I can’t wait for Asobo to fix their ATC. And I can use it for both 2020 and 2024? Tks
You can start anywhere you want but it can be somewhat involved to get BATC in sync with where you are (or maybe I just haven’t figured it out yet). If you restart BATC, it will ask where you are in the flight, so then it is pretty easy.
Yes, Simbrief is the only supported flight planner as of now. I don’t see it as a problem, however. If you also use LittleNavMap, you can create a plan from a Simbrief plan and you can export a Simbrief file from a LittleNavMap file (and others). Simbrief is very efficient in creating flight plans.
Yes, you can use it with both 2020 and 2024, and it works well for both.
Thanks. Maybe I’ll wait till there’s an option to bypass the walk around.
I only change the parked aircraft setting, the others I leave at 5, 5, and 7. I use 7-8 for huge airports like Heathrow, Dubai and Kennedy; 6-5 for big airports like Denver, SFO and Orlando; 4 for medium ones such as Chicago Midway or LaGuardia; and 2-3 for small airports such as Innsbruck, Jackson Hole and Stuttgart. Each airport has its own size and preferred setting, which I change before and during flight, but in small airports a setting like 5 or even 4 leaves me no gates. 3 is most gates full, maybe 5 or 6 to choose from. But in large airports, sometimes even 8 isn’t enough to match real world densities.
From what I understand, density 10 = real life density from the data set they are using (one week from early 2024, IIRC).
Loving the new update, especially the ability to request an approach. No more faking “field in sight” for VFR approaches when it’s marginal at best.
if you ask me it is unusable… the communications are much slower in BATC than IRL so it makes no sense for congested airports
Hi
Looking at purchasing this, just have a few questions.
-
Apart from the obvious ATC, does this program also inject its own ai traffic, so I can disable live traffic and the sims own Ai traffic?
-
As a person who flies both airliners and general aviation, would I get any benefit from BATC when flying general aviation, I’m guessing it’s aimed more towards airliners.
Thanks
1 yes
2 only if you fly them IFR. VFR is planned but frankly is probably many months away, if it comes at all this year.
Great thank you. I guess if I fly VFR, I will at least see BATC ai traffic doing its thing in and around busy airports when Im flying GA.
But I get that as of now airliner flying would be where its at.
Well, yes and no. You would need to file a pseudo FP at simbrief to make BATC inject traffic along your route.
Plus for BATC currently only the departure and destination airport “exist”. like there is no traffic at any other airports, and if you try to tune to ATIS or tower or something anywhere else you’ll just get frequency does not exist.
Ah I see, luckily simbrief can be integrated now, and I wouldn’t need to sub to navigraph I don’t think.
I use ATC chatter to simulate this. Works great.
It injects traffic, but it doesn’t have AI models that come with it so you have to use FSLTL, FS Traffic and AIG AI models with it. You don’t need all three, just one will do. FSLTL is the easiest freeware model set to install. FS Traffic is a purchase (just to get the models) and AIG is a complete nightmare (IMO) to download the models, so take your pick.
Currently FSLTL models in FS2024 have strange ‘barking’ sounds which need a fix on one end or the other (sim or models), but can be “fixed” by a script I think.
All these 3rd party programs, they go in the community folder I gather?
BATC offers a small acript you can download to get rid of the barking sounds, if you hear them.