WIP one more Belgian texture for SSW F-104G.
FX93 from 31st Sq “Tigers” - Tiger Meet 1980 Cameri - Italy.
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Does your version match 3.2.0?
No, I have version 3.0.4. I can see no updates available in MSFS for the 104. Is there a trick I can use to get the patched version?
Not that I’m aware of. This is why I don’t purchase addons from the marketplace if another vendor is available. I believe the Marketplace refreshes on Thursdays so maybe it’ll show up tomorrow?
Engine power still cuts out with afterburner on after 10000 feet…is this ever going to be resolved? been awhile since ive been able to fly this and the trainer .
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Look at the last few posts. It’s been fixed.
Look at the last few posts. It’s been fixed.
Not for us who purchased through the MSFS store.
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Then let this be an object lesson why you shouldn’t purchase addons from the MP if other third party options are available. It’s well known that the MP is very slow to update, and it’s not SSWs fault.
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I have both trainer and single seater. I find the single seater is more twitchy on approach and touchdown - tends to roll at the edge of the envelope more so than the trainer. Anyone else or am i dreaming? If true, whats the difference? I went through the .cfg files and couldn’t spot a difference that might account for this behavior.
Well i downloaded the latest version from simmarket and it still cuts out at 10000 feet, so i have no idea on why its happening…
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try adding an extremity deadzone of +2 or 3 to your throttle. Worked for me.
Hello,
the two flight models, TF and FRF are exactly the same, however there are some differences between two aircarft:
- TF is about 1400 pounds less heavy than FRF
- Also payload weight are set on different positions so inertia moments along axis are different
Consider that position of masses greatly impact on moments, ie: differences between clean (no tips tanks) and tip tanks mounted can be consistently different. A clean aircraft should be more “twitchy” than having tip tanks empty or full.
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hello,
this post is dedicated to MarketPlace (aka MS Store) users.
We had several issues with new package tool provided by Asobo, mostly due to undocumented changes and partially our fault.
Now issues has been fixed and soon also MS Store users should have both TF and FRF-104 G updated to latest versions.
Apologize for inconvenience.
SSW
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I wish that’s all there is, but as a test, I copied configuration files from the TF to the FRF and with the same loads, the FRF behaves quite differently on approach and landing. It rolls unpredictably to the left or right where the TF, at the same IAS is stable. It’s pretty clear you guys slipped in some code tp make the FRF ‘more real?’. But IMHO, it’s not.
hello,
I do confirm that flight models are exactly the same.
It is quite clear that you are describing the rolling effect of the BLC.
The BLC has little to do with the dynamic flight model, it has to do with aircraft systems instead.
The BLC begins to blow less below 83%, the more and the faster you retard throttle and the greater the rolling effect.
Roll direction is unpredictable.
The differences between the TF and the FRF are reasonable, depending on the weight, mass distribution and the resulting moments of inertia as I explained above.
/SSW
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Thanks for engaging in this discussion. One more question based on you last remark: are the BLC systems implementation identical in the TF vs FRF?
hello,
no they are not identical, FRF is more sophisticated and realistic.
TF BLC effect is a sort of “switch over” while FRF is calibrated on RPM as descripted above, and is milder than TF
/SSW
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Okay! Good to get this explained. I was beginning to doubt my gut feel that there was a difference!
i found today very strange thing. i sure there was ok with frf su9 after update. but for now is broken again, i uninstall and now installing both in orbx hope it can fix some. problem is in very strange fuel flow and thrust, it’s jumping and lost any predictability, i thought problem was about i had profile with afterburner for this crazy f/a-18 implementation. i use prop axis for afterburner. at min afterburner don’t work, at max work as have to. for f-35 just back to min prop axis and no problems, but in 104 i think this change something and even after create profile without afterburner and restart simulator, problem stay with me, it pull jerking the rocket baby, and eat fuel as hell till i drop power to -80%. i’m about hysteric now lol
after reinstall same. profile without afterburner, but engine’s thrust and fuel flow lost smoothness. please help
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use file engines beforesu9 doesn’t help. same fuel flow go to sky after 70%(75?) and little bug, if push throttle to max when engine stop appear afterburner sound. please test it. why it could be? i remember 100% it was problem with fuel flow then after update problem gone and i get normal 6ff at 93%. now it’s broken. or that was another version, or before topgun i don’t sure. i too love this bird for stay calm about it 
i use orbx both birds v3.2 for one and v 1.2 for another