Disabled pilots and Rudder control

I’ve used the Thrustmaster throttle and I seem to remember it’s analogue. Feels a bit weird to use but you could get used to it.
thrustmaster-twcs-throttle-pc-1

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Yes. This is the kind of thing I’m thinking of. A throttle with a good quality axis built in as a paddle for the fingers.

This could solve a lot of people’s problems and I’m sure you could have finer control than with a twist grip.

If the TWCS works reasonably well that’s an “off the shelf” solution right there. However, 3d printing and stores like LeoBodnar have really opened up the home build peripherals scene.

I’m gonna keep looking around to see if somebody has already thrown up a design and if not I might look into it myself once I’ve put together my current project (gear lever, flaps control)

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I totally agree, I can’t use a twist grip at all as a rudder controller.

One other type of controller I haven’t seen mentioned is an XBox controller. It’s actually surprisingly useful if set up properly. I used one with FSX for years when I traveled a lot. A lot less bulky than a flight stick, and has built in rudder control. When I get a chance, I’ll edit this with how I set up the buttons.

This is a page from my old www.fssetup.com site. This is for FSX, but you can do the same with MSFS for the most part. Click on the image to expand it to make it more readable.

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Would the new turtle beach volicity one be any good as looks like it has triggers on the handles that you could possibly use for rudder control.

The throttle unit of the Thrustmaster Hotax 4 has a rocker-type switch on its front face, easy to get to with the fingers of your throttle hand - mine was already configured as the rudder (but I changed it to something else).
I’ve currently replaced the Hotax 4 with the Logitech yoke system (plus pedals) but am keeping it for use with “stick” aircraft and helicopters.

great feedback guys. personally, I’m leaning toward the eclipse from CH purely because it has the rudder controls right on the yoke - so no need for more desk space (of which I have none lol). I’d love to have tried out the rudder pedals but I can’t risk dropping £200 on them only to find they aren’t suitable/usable for me. Still hopeful that Asobo might look again at the rudder assistance ingame as that would be the cheapest option :wink:

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I have this throttle. While not my favorite, with some sensitivity calibration it would be a (nearly) ideal solution. I use the paddle mostly for taxiways, and it does the job. I’ve finally gotten a sensitivity curve that works well, and makes it much less twitchy.

Caveat: you need to be willing to open up the chassis and - literally - “grease the skids” (maybe call 'em rails?) that the HOTAS slides on. It helps a great deal to smooth out the operation. However, fine adjustments are still a bit “sticky.” That’s my main complaint with the unit; the buttons, switches, and hat controls are great.

Here’s the grease you need:

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I’d forgotten about the stickiness of the rails. Wish I’d thought about that when I had them.

I have the Thrustmaster Throttle/stick/pedal 16000.m combo (the throttle is the one you show in your photo). I actually use the paddle on the throttle for the rudder and peddles only for brake, because my chair keeps rolling back with using the peddles as a rudder :slight_smile:

bader

Group Captain Sir Douglas Bader an ace fighter pilot with a disability!

I would suggest trying the twist throttle again as some are better than the others and it takes time to learn.

The other suggestion is to use a remote control for RC planes that can be used with a USB output or to buy an RC sim remote control. I can personally recommend the remote control that your get with Realflight RC and with enough channels you wont even need top use a keyboard!

Thanks Dorrager that was well said. I think part of the problem is we are at a point right now where the “feel good thing” and the right thing are quite often not the same thing but like everything with society that will change; just give it time.

As to the topic. I have found in the GA planes I fly there does not seem to be any need to coordinate turns right now anyways. If it were me I would just turn on auto rudder until deciding what the best peripheral solution will be.

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Hi,
with regard to auto throttle, I have found that using it with taildraggers is less than satisfactory for takeoff and landing, unlike the same named feature in FSX which did control the rudder, this iteration still seems to rely on some rudder input from the pilot. I may be wrong but that’s been my experience.

At £329 the turtle beach velocity is beyond my wallet. I’m unlikely to make much cash back even if I were to sell my logitech yoke system as there seems to be a glut now whereas last year there was a shortage.

Such is life :slight_smile:

The Turtle Beach Velocity looks like a promising product but $350 is a lot for a company with no track record of making sim peripherals. Will wait with interest for reviews.

Honeycomb was a new company founded in 2015 and the yoke was there first product. Atleast turtle beach have been making electrical equipment a long time now.

Turtle Beach is mostly known for making headsets (although they do own Roccat now, and Roccat makes nice keyboards and mice in addition to headsets).

Honeycomb is not doing too well on keeping up with customer service and orders, from what I’ve heard…

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