It does seem to be the case that with care good aircraft developers can make some very nice models within the present limits of the sim.
I enjoy the gusts and turbulence - not ever had this in a home simulator before. Sure it needs improvement and tuning, but props to Asobo for what they have done so far.
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for trim, which sorts negates all the good stuff in the atmospheric modelling.
That is an interesting read. Itâs these overpowered âheat-onlyâ thermals over agricultural and urban areas that are causing all the turbulence Iâm trying to get rid off. What I find odd is that the creation of this lift seems to be more related to the windspeed than the temperature, as setting the windspeed to zero has a bigger effect on this than anything else.
I also find it quite dispiriting when members of the community diagnose and identify the issues for Asobo and even then really basic stuff still doesnât get fixed. Last week I couldnât work out why I had no GA AI traffic, it turned out that it was largely because of a bug in the sim that makes all the Cessnas invisible, a bug that some guy posted a fix for last July in the Bug section of this forum, and that bug is still in the sim! Itâs things like that which cause me to expect that gliding is unlikely to be fixed in SU12.
I have noticed that too. Turning the wind off cuts the âheat onlyâ thermals down tremendously. Itâs actually pretty odd. With a sunny day and no wind, you would expect the opposite - that the thermals would be more distinct.
This is also interesting: Will SU12 or later SUs incorporate significant thermal model changes as described in official Gliders Overview stream by Marten from Flight Sim studio AG?.
Looks like they had two models - easy and realistic. They had people test them, and the testers reported not finding enough thermals and it was too difficult to understand, so they shipped the âeasyâ model which is just thermals galore. So, because a bunch of testers didnât understand how or didnât have the patience to find thermals, we got a model that has far too many thermals.
There is no turbulence setting for me
Itâs coming in SU12 which should be out tomorrow.
Thank you very much
Gives me a good excuse for why I float off the end of the runway and across county lines, it is not my approach speed after all it is those dang pesky thermals.
I wouldnât say completely unrealistic. Iâm in flight school right now (the real kind) One of the things we just covered included a section on exactly what you experienced. Itâs not necessarily winds, and such, the temps on the coast from the water and the land tend to cause different temps, with thermals meeting the winds aloft. The issue is when the thermals from the hot land meet the cooler ocean or vice versa it will make it a rather bumpy ride. Someone mentioned the plane not going back to the trimmed altitude⊠um duh. If you get stuck in a wind shear that pulls you down 500 feet, youâre not magically going to pop back up. You have to correct everything. Even here in Colorado you get that flying near water, or even going over the natural earth to city enviroments. The heat off the ground can be a pain like oh look 2 knot winds clear day. Why did my cessna just drop like 10 feet. Feels like riding a old wooden roller coaster.
To be fair, I think he said attitude.
And he said âminor bumps and knocksâ . Not LLWS!
There are joystick that donât spring back to the middle, but unfortunately Microsoft have chosen not to support their own product: the Sidewinder2 FFB joystick.
There are other brands as well, but the fact that they ignore a Microsoft product seems even more bizarre.
Yeah man itâs such a huge shame. I can see why, very limited user base, but it would be great if they could. Itâs possible - I have a couple of plugins that can definitely interact with it but both have their own flaws. Usable though (good enough to use - just not as good as it could be with a bit more work). At least it âjust worksâ as a good and precise joystick without any special drivers though, even on Windows 11.
Good for helicopters. And even without the plugins the TRIM for regular aircraft feels good (I mean you can feel the pressure to keep it centred reduce when you trim out for level flight). I find it nicer than a normal stick. But to be fair I have not tried a very expensive stick to see how they feel.
Yes, itâs a limited user base at present but you can be sure that if FFB was properly supported, virtually every simmer would want one.
Perhaps not people who just fly an airbus, but all GA and heli simmers.
Itâs a huge market.
The lack of FFB support was not due to a limited user base, it was due to Asobo misunderstanding what properly implemented FFB could do and confusing it with XBox style gimmicky controller rumble for special effects.
Well, even after SU12 the turbulence is still ridiculous.
Over the sea the plane is rock steady. The instant you overfly the land with even a 4kt breeze blowing the C152 is shooting up in the air at 1100ft/min and diving towards the ground 10 seconds later. Take your hands off the controls and within seconds itâs knocked into a 30 degree bank and turned around 180 degrees in 20 seconds.
Itâs practically impossible to trim accurately with it behaving like this and itâs impossible to fly any kind of course or pattern accurately.
Is there no way to turn this half baked simulation of turbulence off completely, because trying to fly the C152 like this is simply not enjoyable?
Turning the setting to âLowâ in the Piloting section of Assist Options works for me, hardly anything at all.
âRealisticâ is a bit too much IMO but some may find it okay. Iâve set mine to âMediumâ as a good all round effect for me.
But turbulence isnt only to do with wind as they have attempted to explain many times. If you dont like it turn it to the minimum. That will give you the ex-plane âon-railsâ experience. If you cant handle the Low setting then I donât know what to say - the plane barely deviates
What I just described is with turbulence set to minimum, thatâs whatâs so crazy about it!
I am finding the opposite, even on Realistic turbulence is too tame most of the time.
Do you have Live Weather selected or are you using a custom setting? It seems that some of the weather variables could cause what you describe.
But if not, as there doesnât appear to be anyone else reporting this, you either have an installation problem or maybe whatever controller you are using is faulty. May even be controller settings.
Sorry itâs ruining your enjoyment.