FlightSim Studio B727

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I’ve read through it extensively, I recently found out through their discord that this is a common bug that has been logged already.

To expand: The aircraft will not follow or sequence selected waypoints, the heading, regardless of starting lat/long, or set coordinate, will default to 0 degrees the second the INS is switched from “ALIGN” to “NAV”. Sometimes it will snap to 120 degrees, but then as soon as the first waypoint is entered, it snaps to zero. This can only be “”““remedied””“” by switching the INS completely to the “OFF” position, rendering it completely inoperable, and in a nutshell, non functional in the current build of the aircraft.

Extremely disappointing, I refuse to use a modern GPS in this thing, I’ve been waiting for a good INS aircraft, and a 727, to be introduced, and I am NOT going to GPS with it, lol.

There’s plenty of bugs right now that render the aircraft inoperable, I ran into a bug where the cargo door refused to open/close, I ran into one where the INS coordinates reset every time “insert” is pushed, the APU won’t provide bleed to the engines (packs off), the fuel drains the Left, then Middle, then Right tank, in that order, giving you a NASTY fuel imbalance, none of the panel lighting works, only the gauge lighting works, aircraft won’t follow the GPS (if you used it), even when in “GPS” mode on “NAV AUX”.

I could go on and on, I am, unfortunately for me, not impressed so far, I was VERY much looking forward to this aircraft, but sadly I will be dropping it for a while, at least until they issue an update to remedy this train wreck.. lol.

I seriously have no idea how issues this large get past QA, not trying to knock FSS, but their planes so far have a track record of starting off very poorly for some, and perfect for others (to the lucky ones out there flying INS flawlessly, you have my undying jealousy), their E175 was horrendous when it launched, jerky AP, poor, if any, ILS tracking, terrible sound, terrible performance, and now its an amazing aircraft, I just hope the 727 doesn’t take 2 years to get to a flyable point like the 175 did.

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A question to the those who own this 727…

Does the install include a pdf version of the manual? (I am aware there is an online version)

Thanks!

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I did not see one in the install directory.

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Two quick questions for anyone who knows, on the left and right fuel tanks, I noticed the pumps shut off when they get down to about 2000 lbs, and if you try to switch the pumps back on, they shut off again. Is this correct? Also when the beeping alarm is going off, is that strictly for pressurization issues? I got it during the final parts of my descent last night yet the pressurization panel looked ok and no other lights were illuminated. A bit confusing. Thanks!

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If you have the flight engineer handling the pumps, it may be trying to utilize the center tank. Not 100% sure but that’s the only reason I can think of as to why they’d shut off automatically.

The intermittent warning alarm will either be takeoff configuration on ground or cabin pressurization if airborne. Make sure you have selected FLT for the pressurization system on the GRD FLT switch.

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For some of those issues, did you try reinstalling the aircraft? It was glitching out on me on my second run, but after a reinstall seemed fine. For me, I’ve noted the following:

  • CIV-A properly sequences and automatically tracks one waypoint to another. I did a flight from EDDP-ENGM using only the CIV-A and it is tracking everything as it should.
  • APU was supplying pressure to L and R
  • All 3 tanks are draining at equal rates
  • GNS530 worked fine on another trip I did from EDDL-EKBI including SID/STAR

The lighting issues are definitely an inconvenience and I’ll look forward to a fix for those.

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No flight engineer assistance of any kind, and it’s happening to me now with 5,000 in each tank. Seems the only way the pumps stay on is with the crossfeed valves rotated horizontally

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Interesting, wish I knew more about the fuel system. I see from the docs that there are basically 3 modes the tanks should be in.

One is tank to engine - crossfeed 1 and 3 should be closed and 2 should be open when running tank-to-engine (when all tanks are equal).

There’s tank 2 to all engines, where 1 and 3 boost pumps should all be off, tank 2 pumps on, and all crossfeeds open.

Then there’s balancing 1 and 3, where 1 and 3 crossfeeds are open, tank 2 is shut and pumps off, and then pumps on lower tank 1/3 are shut off.

I’m not sure if maybe the configuration was slightly off and the pumps weren’t happy, or what was going on. I’ll play around with it and keep my tanks under 2,000 to see what happens.

There’s some more detail on the fuel feed process here Cruise & Descent | FSS Documentation Hub

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Thank you for this info, those first two scenarios reflected what I was seeing, so I think that’s just how it is!

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Do the slats deploy when the aircraft is cold and dark and/or without hydraulic pressure, as the real one did?

Kind regards.

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Hi,

Without hydraulic power only the inboard leading edge (Krueger) flaps would droop since the outboard leading edge slats are locked when retracted.

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So after noticing the fuel tank scheme switch from one method to another yet again, I checked the automation section on the phone, and realized I could scroll down and sure enough the pumps were set to be managed. Problem solved!

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Ahh, that would certainly do it! Glad it’s all working for you. There’s certainly a bit of a learning curve to the 727 but overall it’s a pretty fun aircraft to fly.

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Is your auto-correct stepping up its comedic game?

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Hah, yes indeed. Oops.

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Ive noticed even with elevator trim all the way up the Horizontal stabilizer doesnt move…

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After a few flights:

I really like the aircraft, it works very nicely, systems depth is quite good and the graphics look nice.

The AP works very nicely with both the CIVA INS and the GTN, having the CIVA INS for the first time in MSFS is also a very nice thing. I remember it was promised by DC designs for the Concorde and never happened, then FSS goes out of the blue with a 727 and it includes it, great gesture.

The EFB is also nice, I like the GSX integration but maybe I’m using it wrong because GSX does not seem to change the plane weights, at least not in the EFB. Still awesome to see the cargo load and unload from the plane.

What I really don’t like are sounds. My initial complain was about switches that are very muted and do not sound metallic as in a real 727,it seems FSS used mouse clicks for those… The engine sound seemed good but after a while I also think it is bad, there is a very notorious loop in the sounds that for longer flights becomes really annoying and the exterior sounds are not very good either. Hopefully FTsim could release a package for this plane in the future.

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Also noticed no cones even when selected in EFB…

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I believe it is controlling the trim tabs, not the entire stabilizer. If you watch closely you can see the trim tabs move. I can’t speak to whether or not that is accurate.

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Hi Guys
Having a bit of a problem making the 727 follow a GPS track.

My settings:

  1. NAV/GPS switch to GPS
  2. Autopilot Engaged

I then first approach nicely the gps track in a shallow angle so it can easily capture

then I set the AP dial to “AUTO GPS” and hit HDG Engage.

Now this happens: The plane visibly reacts and stears towards the GPS flight path. But instead of aligning and following it - it would always overshoots and then steers clean away from it - often in a 90 degree angle.

In fact - it seems that the plane would follow my HDG - bug setting istead of the GPS track…

Any idea what I am missing?

Oh and I occasionally succeed - it’s just not consistent…