I am so worried about this : "Windows 11 24H2 will enable BitLocker encryption for everyone"

Well, I did also say:

But yes, perhaps I’m less worried about the possibility of things going wrong because I’m fortunate enough to be highly skilled with technology. And for the record, I’m not going to encrypt the disks on my machines and if and when I install Win11 from scratch and it does it for me automatically, I will decrypt it and turn the service off.

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This is the scenario i was afraid of a lot Microsoft re enables bitlocker, locked my computer and deleted the windows hello pin after installing 23H2. | TechPowerUp Forums

It shows it was on Dec 2023, OEM Laptop (not a DIY pc), windows 11 23H2. So this was already happening it seems on win11. Scary situation for people who have no idea what is bitlocker or why this is happening. I am hoping noone experience this with 24H2.

Good to read
if so,
for me no new pc for 2024,no 2024, buy no more addons now and no more windows…i am no pc guy,and hate this way to force user. :-1:
i will use my old w10 pc as long it work then,this i can even not update to w11.
i do no banking or critical stuff,so this will save me a lot of Money and Trouble.
if my pc get locked,how do i get help from MS or internet then,
i think i can not use it then???
so i have to pay for a pc repair men then???

Great news, and there I was thinking, it’s time for me to upgrade to Windows 11…

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yes,i was on the way to spend 3000€ for a new Pc,but when i read this,good to know before i waste my money!!!
no way :-1:

Here is 24H2 Bitlocker full guide for now. One very well known youtube gaming/tech channel also will do an overall Game(s) performance comparison tests with bltlocker when 24H2 released.

Where Bitlocker Keys located on MS website: Sign in to your account

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I agree it’s not great but thankfully it would appear at the moment that we can circumvent
this.

Whilst this remains the case it won’t affect my own decision to buy an updated PC.

As a general rule too I have mostly found that if you look hard enough you can usually find a way around these crazy/enforced things too despite any solutions not being immediately apparent.

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Agreed - no reason to worry too much. It can be avoided, and it can also be turned off later. Keep recovery keys.

In regards to the worries about lost data (i.e. losing the recovery key), having valued data sitting on one drive without a backup is already a risk (and has always been a risk) due to the possibility of drive failure. Keeping backups of the data you care about minimizes that risk of data loss, and it is no different regarding encrypted drives. The solution has already been around for ages.

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Yes, true enough :slightly_smiling_face:

All very well if you have an understanding of how the relevant software works but this 80yr old seems to be more and more wandering around in a maze blindfold :confused:. Thank the gods for this Forum!

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Yes, I hear you :slightly_smiling_face:

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That should be a headline.

Encryption should be pretty reliable but it does complicate or prevent data recovery in some situations - which is kind of the point - to prevent data recovery by unauthorized persons. Hopefully people will at least have backup strategies for important files and it’s all the more reason to keep good backups off the computer and outside the box. It also has to be said that unencrypted backups are a potential attack vector. Anyone with worries about that shouldn’t be simming or playing games on a valuable data system, though.

What it largely protects from are data recovered from discarded hard drives and unauthorized physical (or remote) access to the system, and processes accessing data they shouldn’t as kind of a backstop for malicious processes getting on the system in the first place. It’s part of a layered and redundant set of security protocols where hopefully one blocks unauthorized access even if other protections fail.

Encryption does help with security and has value in today’s very hostile internet environment. Hard to emphasize that enough - the internet is a cross between a war zone and a criminal enterprise. There truly are people looking to steal every cent you have or looking to use your computer as a foot soldier in a war, or both.

Encryption should be mostly transparent after initial setup and setting pass phrases or however they do it. It should just be a performance impact, but time will tell.

Hopefully it is and remains optional but all the security stuff comes from previous compromises. It’s not just busy work. Things like encryption, firewalls, and antivirus software, etc. wouldn’t be added in if there weren’t attack vectors that exploited their absence.

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Ironically fearmongering talk like that means it’s not about the user. It’s about forcing something upon you for shady reasons. In this case it’s about Microsoft locking users into their ecosystem by keeping the keys to your data. Hope you don’t lose access to your MS account.

“All your data are belong to us”
Microsoft

To be able to sleep night, nothing beast a FULL Disk Image backup on a regular basis…

Big hard drives are cheap, data restoration is VERY EXPENSIVE if your HD gets corrupted, or eaten by a Virus.

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How do you full disk image backup an encrypted drive?

Sure this is a direct quote?

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No doubt written by Mr. Gates himself!

He’s good with computers. Nobody said language was his strong suit.

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I wasn’t fearmongering. That is what the internet is like. Have you ever monitored your internet-facing router’s logs to see where packets are coming from that are aimed specifically at your router’s IP address? Grab some IPs and do geographic searches to see.

I have and it’s eye opening. Source IPs are from all over the world with the usual suspects heavily represented. Why do computers in China, Iran, Russia, etc need to try to talk to my router? I get tons of hits from other countries too. It’s almost constant. The fact is these are computers looking for open ports and services they can attack and own. It’s preparing the battlefield. The first sign someone’s about to declare a war nowadays is the target country has its communications and infrastructure attacked. The nonviolent form is raiding companies and home computers of employees for data that can provide economic or other advantages. In between are attacks that use previously-compromised systems to attack or overwhelm other targets - denial of service.

I can’t convince you of the seriousness of the issue since you’ve already decided it’s “fearmongering”. This isn’t the place anyway. You can find out lots on your own if you look up the current state of internet security. I can just tell you it is a serious issue and encryption is one of the puzzle pieces you use to fight it.

“I’ve never had a virus” is what lots try to use to deflect any warnings of computer security. Those people in their denial are possibly the most likely to be compromised. By who and why should be questions but few care.