So far nothing has been said, that 3rd party addons purchased outside of Marketplace should NOT work (after they are updated by the devs if necessary). This is all only speculation so far.
I can’t see that happening. MS doesn’t seem to care about 3rd party developers. It’s not like they’ve ever been transparent with them in the lead up to any previous sim updates. How many times have we seen 3rd party devs being caught unawares with sim updates when their product breaks?
Add-ons that were purchased from the in-simulator Marketplace will not need to be re-purchased in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024.
The above, copied from a ms post, is full of innuendo.
While you are of course correct, we haven’t been told that they WILL work either. Like I said, it’s the lack of transparency toward loyal customers and 3rd party devs that I have an issue with.
Well, they said this:
“With very few exceptions, virtually all add-ons that work in Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020) today will function in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024.”
Yes, but they said it in response to “Will all purchases users have made from the MARKETPLACE be transferrable to the new simulator?”
I read it differently. It only says, that they have no control, if 3rd party devs will charge for an upgrade of their addons (outside of the in-game marketplace that is) or not.
Followed immediately by: “Add-ons that were purchased from the in-simulator Marketplace will not need to be re-purchased in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024.”
Let’s not leave out the context.
We need positive confirmation that externally purchased addons will be fully compatible, thus not necesitating a re-purchase.
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Sure, and it was probably not written by linguistics or law professionals. Still, they said “all add-ons that WORK”. not other attributes. not direct reference to in-game purchases.
I would not get my panties in a twist (yet).
I suppose it will work out like this: some 3rd party devs will charge for the upgrade of their add-ons to 2024. Simple as that.
They DO have control. They can just maintain the same old SDK framework at the core of the new sim and extend around if for new features for the new sim, thus retaining compatibility with existing versions of whatever addons already exist for 2020 and assuring people there will be no need for re-purchase even for addons purchased externally to their store.
"some 3rd party devs will charge for the upgrade of their add-ons to 2024. "
This is unnacceptable and would hint at Asobo/Microsoft not having retained a compatibility layer in their SDK, thus making it their fault.
well that’s a bit of a catch22. The SDK, particularly around the flight model, as well as the weather/environment model, needs urgent improvements. If you keep the then legacy 2020 SDK, then it’s not a good engineering solution probably.
And you’re right, it’s not great. As a software engy myself, maintaining legacy stuff for compatibility sucks and is often not very neat. BUT, it IS doable. They can just extend AROUND the old SDK core to retain compatibility and thus old addons wouldn’t even need any updates at all. That’s Asobos/Microsoft choice to make.
I know. I’m not saying you’re wrong. I was just pointing out the full context of what they said. On it’s own, that statement is very positive. When coupled with the question that was asked, it’s not so positive.
But yeah, no point getting anything in a twist just yet. There are still so many unknowns right now. But I am very much maintaining that a lot more clarification is needed for customers who have thus far been loyal to them.
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I don’t think that’s fair. It really depends on the price for the upgrade.
But the 3rd party devs also need to have a reasonable framework for their business and revenue stream.
Granted some are suckers, only in it for the money apparently (***) but others do work continuously on improving their add-ons and it would be fair if they could charge a reasonable amount for an upgrade that gives us on the other hand also tangible improvements.
Right right, but we agree here bud. Look, if addon devs make significant, and I do mean SIGNIFICANT updates to their products, then sure, perhaps they should charge a fee for that. But that’s not what we’re discussing here.
What we’re discussing is the following scenario. Let’s say I (as some others might attest) have bought ALL the PMDG 737s. That was A LOT of money. Now, as they are today, right now, the exact state they’re in now. That same code and 3D assets. That exact same addon for say the PMDG 737-800 for example, should and absolutely CAN be fully compatible with MSFS 2024 if Asobo/Microsoft retains a compatibility layer.
What I am saying is unnaceptable is for:
- Asobo/Micorsoft to not maintain such a compatibility layer
and/or
- In this example, PMDG choosing to charge people AGAIN for the EXACT same addon (same code, same 3D assets, etc) just because they stuck a 2024 sticker on the box
You see what I’m saying?
Am I right?
If a developers product is sold in the marketplace as well as on a different site (ie just flight), then that product has the same coding for both marketplace and external site sales. Therefore if all marketplace products are ok, so are those, they will be compatible.
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It’s not realistic to charge you again on a item sold via there website (PMDG) and not via the one in the marketplace.
They should update there operations center.
-Bram
Theoretically yes. But there are MANY addons that are not on their markletplace.
Yes, I was coming to that next, didn’t want to drop all of my bombs at once.
Now to have a look on my pc which planes I’ve bought aren’t available in the marketplace. Better get flying them ‘tout suite’ to get my money’s worth.