MSFS GOTY Edition,review

You most definitely can.

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Thank you so much!

At least those tend to be (mostly) small uncontrolled airports, and we can take on the responsibility of picking our own appropriate runways. I’m good with that.

Seriously, I hope this is one aspect that’s finally fixed.

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I wonder where you have been, I have seen fog both IRL and in the sim here in Zürich a lot lately.

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I always land to LSZH and EDDM and haven’t seen nothing but low level clouds.

Then I guess there is no consistency.

Seb talked about the hybrid METAR/Meteoblue weather system in a previous Q&A. He said that they were working on smoothing out abrupt changes. One of the issues is that METARs are near-enough real-time, whereas the Meteoblue global weather model might be 30mins to an hour delayed, maybe more in some parts of the world. It’s also more approximate. So this brings in higher chances of differences.

Like anything, it will probably take a while to improve.

I remember flying in the Far East in FSX with Active Sky Next. The visibility would suddenly plummet when approaching airports in India, Myanmar and the like, due to (I presume) localised air pollution or smog. The weather was fine, but every airport located near a city was reporting < 1nm visibility. Caused some very weird effects in-sim, as there was no prior warning of the ā€˜fog’ ahead (ATIS aside) until you descended to a certain altitude. Hopefully MSFS will do a little better than that. We’ve come a long way, but perhaps a few issues are still to be resolved… sounds promising from the above few posts though! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

The difference is that the ā€œfogā€ in the sim so far has been basically just clumps of clouds at ground level. It doesn’t really look like real fog.

Now in SU7 fog actually looks like a consistent, flattish layer of cloud near the ground, like real fog. And it effectively reduces visibility as it should.

Same for haze (but less heavy, of course).

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I can’t speak for SU7, but currently, forecasts the weather is modelled on are 12+ hours old. I know they spoke of more timely forecast models. I do hope they can get it down to the 30 minute range. That would fix the majority of weather issues we’re currently having.

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This is great to hear amd that’s exactly what I have been experiencing for so long.

I think when you introduce two weather systems, so METAR for local airport weather which most people agree needs to happen so that reported weather at each location is more realistic then it’s inevitable there will be disagreement between Meteoblue and the METAR data at some point and therefore the possibility of a harsh transition.

Hopefully, this is not that common but we’ll have to see, but this isn’t something we should be surprised about but we need to push for a ā€˜fix’ if it appears to be happening more than it should.

Remember this project is in continuous development and Asobo could develop a system with makes the transitions smoother, so let’s not throw our toys out of the pram if this ends up being something you find irritable.

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I think it’s definitely possible to improve it. In a lot of cases, the transition is smooth, but there are cases in which it isn’t, so the system is in there, but it doesn’t always work flawlessly.

How do they smoothen out it if meteoblue reports clear weather and METAR reports no visibility? It’s suddenly smoothen out to clear weather? I realy hope they manage to get it right :slight_smile: i also think it’s good to have 0 visibility in the sim but the immersion will be gone if it’s suddenly is clear weather when it actually is not. But with meteoblue we not getting those sudden changes. I don’t realy know how they can get the actual weather be in the sim with real smooth transisions if the prediction not is accurate with the real weather that actually happening.

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As far as I know this is all the sim could do… until now with SU7.

The addition of actual visibility conditions, almost entirely absent in previous builds, is most welcome. Flying around LA feels dead without it. I’d be willing to put up with an occasional transition to have this feature. It’s one of the most badly needed weather features.

As far as I can tell there are some substantial limitations with the Meteoblue model when it comes to visibility reporting. Over the US in particular, the model doesn’t handle the fine scale variation of haze, fog, and mist and can differ substantially from METAR reported visibility. So in this case, we’ll need the METAR based values to see any improvement on this front until the model based weather can be improved. I’m not a fan of injecting METAR based weather in general, which is a fragment of historical weather. But if they can indeed augment the model based weather to overcome its deficiencies, then this is a big step forward for sure.

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In this regard, I’d be happy for a weather model option to allow a toggle between Meteoblue only (no abrupt changes), or a hybrid MB/METAR approach with more accurate local weather.

As much as I want ā€˜real’ weather, depending on the type of flight it isn’t always essential to have it matching reality precisely - but it differs for every simmer.

If we will all have the new system forced on us with any quirks it might bring, it could be frustrating for some users, even immersion-breaking. Choices are always good where possible - aside from having to be locked for ā€˜Live’ mode so all users have the same weather & time.

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Yes, that would be good because i don’t think everyone complained about it to begin with.

So interesting this is your one take away from the article, which to me, has nothing but praise for SU7. I’m excited!!

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For some weather is the one of the most important thing in a flightsim (me included). Maybe that’s why. For some more aircraft is more important. For some DX12 is more important. For some Reno Air is more importan and so on,

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I really do hope people embrace it. It’s a hell of a lot of fun. Much more than I expected.

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Yes i like it to :+1:

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Everyone is different in what they want from the sim, that’s true. I’ve only purchased the DC-6 for MSFS so far. I don’t much care for payware airports as I seldom fly to/from the same places. Same for basic aircraft. I mostly enjoy study-level stuff (i.e. ones that can break down!) and patiently await A2A’s arrival on the scene :crossed_fingers:

Meanwhile, I see that @Abriael made his own post to share his article, but sadly all the discussion has ended up in this thread instead, which is a little ironic… such is the way of the internet! :grinning:

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