the cockpit lever doesn’t update to follow the axis, but if you look out the windows, the spoilers deploy correctly.
PC-24 never have press/cab or oxy issue (outside visualbug)
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I throw up COUPLE of missions for oxygen problems…
Could someone please list the complete set of steps they take (beyond just pushing the button) to engage the “APPR” function while on a VFR approach? - Thanks!
You forget enable oxygen switch
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there is a lever and the n a button to dumb pressurization…but don’t understand if it is secondary or primary
by definition, APPR mode is IFR-only. it requires a published ILS or RNAV procedure programmed into your FCU, or that you use VNAV+ which is a feature of the Garmin and Pilatus avionics that automatically creates a synthetic final approach fix and glideslope for any runway.
APPR mode tells your autopilot to capture the localizer and glideslope you’ve programmed into your FCU using one of the above methods.
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set your parking brake while in flight. It accomplishes the same desired outcome.
So just tried the PC24…severe disappointment. But, I’m not happy with ANY of the default planes in 2024. I’ve been doing FDE modeling for over 20 years, mainly with Historic Jetliners Group. If I could just get my hands on the flight_model.cfg file for most of these planes I could fix them in a few hours. Sad that we don’t have access.
PC24 engines are waay under powered. As others have noted, it looks like they just copied/pasted the FDE from the PC12 into the PC24. How can anyone be that lazy??? I can’t do anything about the pressurization, ice prevention issues…that’s panel/systems modeling. Geez, it’s not that hard to put in the effort to develop a decent flight model from published specs. It’s not x-plane, but one can come very close in the MSFS environment.
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Hg to hPa you can do!
on that very bottom panel click “DU & CCD” > Lower MFD > Page the on Lower MFD you should see a menu “CKLST” / “Sensors” / “WX/LX/TAWS” / “Avionics”, click on Avionics and then toggle it with [Baro Corr].
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You cannot enable approach mode on a visual approach in the PC-12 or PC-24 but what you can do, and you would probably NEVER want to do this in real-life… but you can trick the autopilot into (sort of) flying the approach for you using VNAV. You still do NOT enable approach mode, it will not enable, and clicking it a couple of times will cancel NAV on you also so watch for that if you forget.
Enter the flight plan yourself, enter the origin and destination airport codes first, then click Insert. Then select the destination from the flight plan and use option Departure/Arrival to select the visual approach for your runway and option “Straight”, insert that. Then, select the new RW## waypoint that was entered, use Cross, check the Altitude and At options (it will have a default altitude already populated but those are super accurate).
The autopilot will then VNAV you down to that point at that altitude.
Half the time this will get you killed unless you intervene, it will miss the runway entirely (by a bit), it will fly you into mountains, it will put you in the dirt a mile in front of the runway, etc. But it WILL get you on a roughly 3 deg glidepath that will put you in the vicinity of the runway with the plane trimmed nicely, you just have to decide when to cancel autopilot and take over (or cancel VNAV and tweak the V/S yourself a bit – whatever you like).
You can also set altitudes and even speeds on waypoints and the FMS speed schedule and VNAV will use them.
And a pro-tip is that you can set custom waypoints into the flight plan also, I most commonly will use Place/Bearing/Distance (using Amend Route in the flight plan menu, there is also a lat/long format but it doesn’t always work).
For example: HTNG/200/10 will set a waypoint 10 nm from HTNG along bearing 200 for a long straight in approach to runway 02.
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that’s not really tricking the autopilot, at least in the Garmin. it’s a well-documented feature called LNAV+V.
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You aren’t literally “tricking it” of course, but it’s outside the bounds of normal operations I think (not an expert though). It definitely is extremely unreliable in MSFS 2024, it will put you in the dirt half the time, it’s just good for getting you on a stable approach without as much fiddling. This isn’t the same as an LPV/RNAV/RNP approach.
Here is an example of using this methodology on approach and it tries to put you in the ground (plus a fun bad weather takeoff).
Many of the complaints about the PC-24 seem to relate to not understanding the aircraft system functionality. Having spent almost four weeks learning about this aircraft and setting up my custom controls I can say that this is a sophisticated aircraft that you can’t just fly having ‘kicked the tires and lit the fires’. First flight a great success learning that manual speeds need to be higher and that the elevator needed adjustment for sensitivity. I have found a number of issues that I hope will be fixed or a solution provided. For example, I want to fly this aircraft to landing strips that are not listed. This involves custom waypoints. The EFB allows custom waypoints, but these won’t load into the aircraft. Happy contrails to all.
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which complaints are related to not understanding the aircraft system functionality? are you able to highlight some from this forum?
As an example, complaints about throttles going crazy. This is about not understanding the autothrottles system. Another is checklists. Checklists are available from the EFB. Yest another, inches versus hpa. A recent post showed the selection process. The forum is good.
Where are the VIP Career flights for this aircraft if you own it? I have never seen a VIP mission come up at all for the PC24.
AutoThrottle does not work properly, it will constantly rev up and then back down. Other auto-throttle implementations work better. It’s like it was written by an intern who didn’t know about PIDs wrote “if too slow throttle up, if too fast throttle down”
Most of the in-game checklists need work.
How to switch to hpa should be in some kind of Ops manual in the EFB – not the full airplane manual but some basics would be nice. Also be nice to include notes about how to enter place/bearing/distance and lat/long formats into the flight plan (you can also watch the Honeywell videos which do cover that and that’s where I learned how to do it). It would also be nice if you could click on the map and do the operations the real software can do (like add arbitrary waypoints through the map interface – in the real plane they have a little ‘mouse’ dodad to do it).
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