I am sorry you think you are being insulted. Not intended at all. I often encounter a very vindictive attitude of participants in forums which means any discussion is ‘war’. Quite sad, but that seems the way of the world. Autothrottle works fine for me without significant oscillation. There you go. I repeat that many of the issues posted suggest a lack of understanding. This is not an insult, but an observation reflecting that ‘kick the tires and lite the fires’ is how most want msfs 2024 to be, ie a game and not a simulator. I’ves spent a month or so learning this aircraft. It flies very well.
I’m waiting for this bird to be optimized/bugs fixed before I learn how to fly this machine. I imagine it’s a few steps above the Longitude and the CJ4 in terms of, well, everything?
Can you post a video of you’re throttles in cruise and the engine information screen, AT on, M0.71, I’m having the same over shooting and under shooting as stated in the thread and haven’t heard of anyone having stable AT in this aircraft.
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I’m curious now about the autothrottle issue that has been posted. An observation: even in a nil wind / shear environment there is a slight fluctuation in airspeed. MSFS 2020 was notorious for significant shear as aircraft climbed or descended through levels associated with large differences in winds speed and direction. Autothrottles generally coped with this anomoly after some strong initial reactions. I haven’t encountered this same fault (as yet?) in MSFS 2024. Perhaps there has been a better blending of the winds. However, the slower the aircraft speed the larger as a percentage of overall speed is environment wind. What this means is that to maintain a particular air speed the autothrottle has to work harder which is more apparent the slower the aircraft. Does the autothrottle problem occur if nil wind is selected? If you select a strong shear how does the autothrottle cope? What airspeed fluctuation has been encountered with this autothrottle issue? Is this an observed over or undershoot issue?
I don’t want to get involved in a big argument but just to satisfy myself ( because to be honest I felt I was being gaslighted a bit - probably lack of experience more than anything) 8 compared the HondaJet and PC24 autothrottle behaviour in the preset - slight clouds. There are marked differences in behaviour, setting the auto throttle on the Hondajet and engaging TOGA gives you a smooth transition to a climbpower setting and a climb speed of 210 Kts up to cruise alt using FLC . It’s a smooth experience and there are very few fluctuations, under or overshoots in a constant light wind. Same for descent and flap selection - the AT is beautifully implemented and will take you all the way down to Vapp on finals. No dramas.
Now defending some of the PC24 issues - the FMS configuration has been set up with PC12 values so you really can’t use FMS values - have to set manual speeds - the difference is night and day.
Rocket reducer to cruise altitude - set 200 or 210 kts and and FLC and the AT will blast through the stops and give you full power up to cruise. One you set the cruise the AT will fluctuate around +/- 15% in N1 values and stays there, not converging on an optimal setting. Switching AT off. I manage to settle the speed down manually in seconds so it’s nothing to do with the aircraft aerodynamiccs. You’re best turning AT off on this one. Whilst the AT seems to manage descents a little better, there’s still way too much fluctuation. The fluctuations are very noticeable
Now I’m not an IRL pilot but I really can’t believe that the AT behaviour on the PC24 is as crude and unpolished as that.
The PC24 is disappointing overall - there are far better business jets in MSFS2020 - I’ve flown the Flight FX Hondajet ( to do these AT tests) in 2024 with no resl issues - and also the Cockspur C510 and Phenom100 too (both of these manual throttle). All three are very immersive and feel much more realistic in all phases of flight.
I do think the PC24 can be improved - but the AT needs a lot of work to bring it up to Hondajet standard - this is only my own opinion following 3 hours of test flying on the 2024 beta yesterday afternoon.
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Sadly, this plane has become a CTD fest for me.
WHEN and IF I am able to actually reach the cockpit before a CTD, it will ALWAYS CTD during taxi.
This is new. I’ll say in the last 3 or 4 days. Before that, I was enjoying the plane quite much
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Ok so I just learned.
If I mess with the tablet IN ANY WAY within the PC24, will result in a CTD for me.
Of course the flight plan is not being imported into the avionics, and I was doing the “send to avionics” thing.
I just started a flight and created the flight plan from scratch in the MFD and I was able to actually take off and I am flying now.
I think is the tablet interaction that is crashing the PC24
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Carenado’s changelog for the PC-24 in SU1 release notes:
Pilatus PC-24
- nothing.
- er…
- that’s it.
however, Working Title have been hard at work on the avionics:
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What has been fixed so far?
During take off, climb, and landing… There are so many chance to hear ‘stall’ warning even if it is not in the stall speed range. Trim works weird while AP engaged.
I don’t know exactly but this MFSF PC-24 is a total trash.
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I’ve voiced my gripes with it in a few threads. It flies like the CG is way to far forward at all times. I’ve watched flight review videos of the real aircraft and tried to replicate the performance in the sim and something is definitely wrong.
Vr should be around 100 but I usually start to rotate at 110 and it takes near full elevator to get it off the ground and then a bunch of nose up trim to relieve back pressure on the yoke. Even with the nose up trim at the top of the green range and the “no takeoff” warnings going off on the roll.
On landing I usually fly my approach at 130 so that I’m not so far nose up that I can’t see in the default seating position. At this speed it feels better but it should be about 20kts slower. It also requires so much nose up trim that when I flare and touchdown I have to force the nose down to the ground or it’ll start to raise on its own.
I love the PC24, it’s one of the reasons I purchased the sim, I love this size jet and the off field capabilities are icing on the cake. I work around it and there are definitely career mission I cannot do because of the runway length needed with how it flies. I really hope they can fix it soon
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all the speed settings are actually for the PC-12, not the PC-24, so you probably are in the stall range. but the speed tape markers are incorrect.
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Has the fuel consumption been addressed at all by Caranado or Asobo? I did a VIP mission yesterday and managed to get 1452nm burning 4279lbs of fuel, 1650lbs remaining. That was with an average tailwind of 60kts but considering its efficiency at FL450 I think I could have gotten another couple hundred miles out of it. the real aircraft has a 2000nm range of course depending on wind. IMO this doesn’t seem as bad as it was a month or two ago
No, in my case I’m getting stall warnings at 130kts with full flaps which is ridiculous for this aircraft, it can land at 100kts without a problem.
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Hi everyone,
First of all, the PC-24 is in a much better state than at launch, and it’s great to see the improvements made to the aircraft. However, there are still some issues and missing functionalities that I wanted to highlight:
- Options menu limitations – Some options (such as unit changes) are not available, like the barometric setting on the touchscreen where the “Options” button is grayed out.
- Autothrottle instability – Instead of smoothly adjusting power to maintain a target speed (e.g., 270 knots), the autothrottle overshoots and then overcorrects. It will set a very high thrust (96%), exceed the target speed, then reduce power drastically (66%), which is not enough, causing a yo-yo effect in speed control.
- Battery power-up sequence – When turning on BAT 1, two screens correctly power up, which is great. However, when BAT 2 is switched on, the lower MFD should also turn on, but currently, it does not.
- MFD softkey functions – The three buttons below the touchscreen MFD do not work as they should. The “Swap MFD” button should swap screens, but instead, it only changes the interaction buttons for the upper screen. This is important because the ability to swap screens allows pilots to perform checklists and verify settings with only one battery powered on when the lower MFD is off.
- Lower MFD navigation issue – The SYN button on the lower MFD does not allow proper navigation through the different options (such as circuit breakers, control surfaces, etc.).
- Spoilers deployment issue – I saw this mentioned in another thread, but it’s worth noting here: upon touchdown, the spoilers should automatically deploy, but this doesn’t seem to be happening as expected. I’ll let others handle the technical details, but this is an important aspect of landing behavior.
Edit:
- I also found another small issue: when turning on engine ignition without setting the engine master switch to ON, if the generator is switched on, it produces electrical power without consuming fuel.
- I’ve also made a separate Wishlist post regarding the implementation of Quiet Power Mode (QPM) for the PC-24, as this is a key feature of the real aircraft and would be great to have in the sim.
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Quick question. Is there a way to reset the trim quick? Sometimes i get a trim of +10 degrees when flying on flc…when disengaging the ap i have to manualy trin it down. Is there a binding? Have troubles getting to cruising altitude with flc. Now use vs mode…what is the best climbrate with what speed?
Thanks
And got some crashes before even taking off. Its seems like some airports are unstable when switching to vr. The pc 12 and pc 24 are kind of dancing on the tarmac and the plane crashed
I must confess you made me laugh. At launch the whole right side of the plane was non-functional. 
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Just Animation is broken, is a core sim issue
It might have been fixed, career pc-24 weighs 18klbs now instead of 34k
Not really, I’ve been flying it a lot in career for VIP missions and I still need nearly full up elevator to rotate and climb. Got an aural stall warning last night too while rotating at 110kts. I did a 900ish mile flight KJFK → KPBI at FL440 and couldn’t compete it with full tanks even though it’s less than half the range of the real aircraft. The auto throttle still needs refining as it will undershoot and overshoot constantly while trying to hold a speed, this is noticeable in the descent of you select a lower speed to slow too.
It’s still my go to jet but needs a good amount of tweaking to fly like the real thing