[MSFS2024] Pilatus PC-24

Care to elaborate?

I noticed the same thing today during a flight
Total fuel flow was showing 2112 lbs/hr
Fuel calculation was showing 1056 lbs/hr

At least there is a runway there. My last medium cargo mission I was spawned in on the side of a hill, nose stuck in the air, and apparently the “runway” was just the grass on the top of the hill with no markings whatsoever.

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I dont know what you all guys are doing.

Before starting a mission, i always check the runway lenght and airport size before accepting the mission. and i always check the destination and the proposed approach too.

So i never get in trouble bc cant start/land.

Oh I still did the mission and got paid. If I eliminated all the missions like that I wouldn’t have any missions left. This is my biggest pet peeve. I want a switch to only generate missions with PROPER airports because all I seem to get is podunk/closed/fake ones.

Yeah, thats right, i dont like them too.

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Multiplying by 0.45 is for suckers.

Divide by 2.2.

Or, if you want the hackiest of shortcuts


Divide by 2, then use 90% of that.

1000 lbs / 2 = 500 intermediate kilos - 10% = 450 kg
Yeah, you’re off by 3.5kg in the end
but if you’re running that close to the limit, you should reconsider your life choices. =)

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note that in-game, Vspds are Vr, Vx, Vy and Vt, whereas they should be V1, Vr, V2 and Vt. this is probably because they’ve been copy-pasted from the Pilatus PC-12.

TLDR climb speed summary

  • takeoff: V2 = 96 knots
  • once V2 reached: V2 + 10 knots
  • flaps up: 170 knots
  • above 2500 ft + 4 miles from runway: 200 knots
  • above FL350: mach 0.6
  • cruise: mach 0.7

you’ll have to change the speed source from FMS to MAN and bug these up yourself, since unfortunately the avionics won’t do it for you, leading to an autothrottle-induced stall at higher altitudes.

see also:

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I use 15° flaps and change pitch trim until the nose shows slightly up on the trim display and I don’t get any warnings.

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Does the PC-24 have auto speedbrakes after touchdown?

IRL they do but not in the sim for some reason

Omg
 thats so frustrating :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

the pitch trim required to avoid takeoff warnings is marked with a green band. i use 1.5 degrees nose up, which seems to work fine. i do however find that the PC-24 struggles to get airborn even when i use a higher Vr than “recommended” (i believe it is using PC-12 v speeds, so they’re likely way too low).

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As with others, nothing works. I can’t turn on the MFD ( may be user error, I know), and I can’t find any info on this website or others regarding the PC-24 in MSFS 2024. The checklists are woefully inadequate, as following the steps does not provide any useful outcome. I would love to use this feature, please repair the PC-24.


 but 
 but 
 Carenado said it was perfect. :rofl:

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I think that now this is my most used plane in career :slight_smile: I absolutely love it. It has it quirks but they are all easy to work around. Protip for career: south east asia :wink: Loads of high value missions from/to 1300+m runways.

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it’s one of only two medium cargo haulers that don’t have serious issues which make them painful to fly. the other is the C408, which seems to just mosty work.

as for the others:

  • the C208b is a chore to fly because
 well, (1) it’s an Asobo product so its autopilot can’t hold a heading without swaying and porpoising like a drunken sailor (this is in clear skies with Live Weather off); (2) it becomes very unstable at approach speeds; (3) the autopilot can’t compensate for the balloon resulting from dropping flaps and will just straight up lose the glidepath or stall; (4) it will drop a wing and ground loop in a heartbeat on landing if you let it; (5) and finally, unlike every other plane with reversers, you can’t use in-axis reverse (with, for instance, the TCA Throttle’s reverse detents) but instead have to bind a key to reverse and then push the throttle UP.

EDIT: wing drop and ground loop on landing was caused by the default 0% throttle curve mapping into the top of the beta/reverse range instead of ground idle. see elsewhere in the fix for a throttle mapping that fixes this.

EDIT2: there’s another axis that can be bound which DOES use in-axis reverse. it’s THROTTLE SET, and it’s unique to the C208B. again see elsewhere in thread.

  • the PC-24 is actually mostly fine now except that (1) it has the avionics and V speed presets from the turboprop PC-12 because of course Asobo just copy-pasted them, which means the autothrottle will stall during cruise climb unless you manually fix the presets, which is tedious, and (2) you’ll be continually sent to 500m Podunk bush strips in a jet which has has no reversers, and ground spoilers but PSYCH! they can’t be armed. it has a listed minimum landing roll of around 750m.
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(from pilatus-aircraft.com)

Performance
Balanced field length (MTOW, ISA) | 2,930 ft
Rate of climb | 4,070 fpm
Landing distance (MLW, ISA) | 2,375 ft
Max cruise speed (FL280) | 440 KTAS
NBAA IFR range (long-range cruise) | 2,106 nm
Max operating altitude | 45,000 ft

Limiting and Recommended Airspeeds
VS0 | 82 KIAS
V1 (takeoff decision speed) | 96 KIAS
VR (rotation) | 96 KIAS
V2 (takeoff safety speed) | 106 KIAS
VT (takeoff target speed) | 170 KIAS
VFE (max flap extended), flaps 8 | 200 KIAS
flaps 15 | 200 KIAS
flaps 33 | 175 KIAS
VLE (max gear extended) | 250 KIAS/0.74M, whichever lower
VLO (max gear operating) | 250 KIAS/0.74M, whichever lower
VREF (reference speed, final approach) | 102 KIAS
VMO (max operating speed) | 290 KIAS
MMO (max Mach number) | 0.74 M

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Well, I was saying pc-24 is my most used plane, because in south east asia 95% of missions send me to 1100m long runways. I didn’t bother checking if ground spoilers are extended but when I put speedbrakes up after landing lower mfd shows ground spoilers.
As for speeds, yes, I set them manually after learning my lessons :wink: but then it adds something to do except pressing enter for getting ifr clearance :wink: 200kts climb up to fl440 then manually set throttle to around 98% n1 (can’t set it precisely of course because 0.1mm too much and it’s 99.5% :smiley: ) and that keeps me at afair 210kts ias.

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indeed. flying from RJAF to RKNY with full simbrief support and i’ve input the correct V speeds. life is good. European and American PC-24 mission, on the other hand
 :confused:

this input curve puts the TCA Throttle’s FLEX gate exactly on 98% N1 at cruise altitude.


perfecto.