If you import a flight plan in the MSFS world planner screen, you can’t select anything on the planning map, or change the arrival details dropdowns at all, otherwise MSFS will regenerate the route. Likewise, you can only select a starting gate via the dropdown, the route will get regenerated again if you select a gate on the planning map to spawn into.
So basically, if you’re loading an external flight plan, change nothing other than your starting position (using the dropdown not the map) then click fly.
In terms of your other point, the MSFS devs said in a previous Q&A that they’re not got accurate data yet on taxiway naming/stand numbering for most airports, hence why the default airports can have random naming/numbering. Most handcrafted or 3rd party airports have these assigned correctly though, and I’m sure they’ll update others as data becomes available.
This is indeed because 99% of all the airports are completely AI generated. Apparently the real taxiway numbers/names aren’t a datasource for the AI, so it just assigns A, B etc.
Nothing weird, just an automated workflow, which is a lot more efficient for adding 37000 airports to the sim (imagine having to do all those manually).
… and Navigraph will answer this, even it’s still answered here:
plan always the flight with the same AIRAC version from the same data provider. The reason is, as an example that the waypoints (specially the unnamed) are differ from provider to provider, possible airway-restrictions/directions/… are differ depending on the supported features of the flightplanner, and so on. The mixed stock data solution now in the sim (NavBlue + FAA + some other upcoming freeware sources) will show you the limits in the future.
when you have loaded a flightplan and you change anything in the sim, the sim re-calculate the route immediately. Thats a “feature” and has nothing todo with us. Exactly the same happens, when you don’t use Navigraph. To avoid this, don’t touch the loaded flightplan in the sim.
One additional word to the taxiways and signs:
We have the data but due the internal structure and implementation, it is currently nearly impossible (without a high risk of mess) to set it correctly. Further, we may not (or should not) touch existing airports. Reason unknown … Therefore we can’t add missing runways, we can’t change runway-idents, … we have all this information as you see in other addons (current and the upcoming ones).
Hope that helps a little to be clarify the situation
Richard
Is it then possible to plan the flight with Navigraph, Import the flight plan into MSFS but then change the departure to a cold start from a parking/ gate area instead of from the runway- or would this throw the flight plan off?
Do you see opportunities for a collaboration between Navigraph and MS/Asobo to fix the Taxi ways in MSFS the future?
I guess, when you do this directly in the FMC/Garmin in the specific aircraft, than this should work as expected but you should not do this directly in the WorldMap because this force the re-calculation.
Difficult to answer, but as in the past, since the release (and also in the beta phase) we are ready and we are also willing to help where we can and when we can, MS/Asobo knows that … but at the moment, it looks there is no need for our help and/our support - it is at it is. Whenever we see a chance to improve something, we will do it - thats for sure.
Yes, providing you only do this by selecting a gate in the dropdown menu on the world planner screen (rather than by clicking on the map), and touch nothing else. In that case it won’t regenerate the flight plan, and you’ll load in correctly for a cold/dark start from a parking stand/gate
I can’t speak to a comparison of the accuracy between FSX and MSFS default layouts.
One huge difference was that Microsoft had a deal with Jeppesen as opposed to NavBlue to provide chart data. I’m not sure if they used it for their airports though. Unfortunately, FSX support was dropped and the band was broken up soon after Paul Allen passed away, so a lot of what was planned never came to be.
I will say I noticed that the procedures for KASH were finally added in the last update. I haven’t had a chance to check them for accuracy yet.
Correct, these data came from the free/public FAA source and not from NavBlue. Asobo has started with one of the last updates, to mix commercial data with public/free data to close the gap of uncomplete data … and what I have understood, they will add a few more free data to make the data more complete (and more accurate).
I’m happy to see Asobo went that route (CIFP I imagine?).
NavBlue over Jeppesen was one of Asobo/Microsoft’s biggest missteps as far as I’m concerned (I don’t know who made that decision). But, I’m imagining good for you?
NavBlue over Jeppesen was one of Asobo/Microsoft’s biggest missteps as far as I’m concerned (I don’t know who made that decision)
Asobo is from France.
NavBlue is owned by Airbus, which while headquartered in Netherlands has their major production facility and their main offices in France. There ya go.
I don’t go around assuming things about business deals that are opaque to us. As I understand it, Jeppesen wanted the deal. They used to have a deal with Microsoft. It’s just as likely that Microsoft has a sour taste in their mouth from their previous deal and told Asobo not to use Jeppesen. I don’t know.
Charts+ is gonna make up for a lot, NavBlue charts are a million times better than the cluttered mess that is called Jeppesen. I never ever wanna go back to Jeppesen again.
FSX got most of the of the ~25,000 airports & TWY’s right 15 years ago, and they weren’t manually made?
I still think it’s weird something like correct TWY letter assignments wasn’t considered important enough in MSFS, so they skipped implementing it and added their own instead…?
There is definitely digital/vector data available out there that could be incorporated procedurally instead of manually.
There’s even lettering in the free Open Street Map vector data for airport taxiways for a huge number of airports wordlwide. And then there’s sources like Navigraph / Jeppesen, NavBlue and so on.
My guess is they didn’t realize how extensively used VATSIM and other control systems like that were used? Given that Jorg and Seb and Martial are all pilots, it is odd they didn’t deal with that very important detail.
It is a question of money, big money and everyone want a piece of cake, so we aren fool by msfs2020.
Remember the adv about msfs2020 with nice picture and promised wounder of flight like a real plane. Big disapointement when we got the product with a lot of issues when they relased the games. now they have a lot of buyer they don’t want to put to much money to improved the product, so we are sc…w. We have to deal with the mismatch by ourself.
Some one did a night flight and arrived at the unkonw airport, it is a mess to get at the good gates and try to see the taxiway indication, when is theres? For me i see badly the taxying at the airport in night…!