Navigraph

You reply to me?

I only ask for sure because I understand to problematic but some users here are little bit somewhere else…

Last Navigraph cycle??? You’re kidding? :smiley: It’s under Beta and is buggy :smiley: I don’t see reasons for that :smiley:

I’m totally impressed about people thoughts and imaginations…

well if you don’t want to use navipraph, what’s your point then?

you can’t expect to get the same results in MSFS and navigraph, if you don’t use the same dataset cycle…

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@ Puuhbearchen

Really??? :smiley: Ok, let it be, it’s better… Will not again be putted to provoke situations and also to give some knowledge…

what?

you should propably use less questionmarks and be more specific about what you want to say? because I don’t get you point…

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Navigraph by itself is quite a good bit of software - I like it. I am happy to wait for a fix. In the meantime, I’ll insert the data that I put together in navigraph and input that into the fms manually. I enjoy learning how to program an mfs interesting anyway. Thank you all for chiming in.

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@ gathan342

YEEEES!

this is procedure what you need to do :wink: Glad you’ve found it :wink:

The easiest and best way to get your Navigraph flight plan into MSFS is to import your plan using SimBrief.com

You create your plan using Navigraph, copy your route into SimBrief, and then using the SimBrief Downloader, download your .pln file directly into MSFS.

Ignore the naysayers who say that Navigraph doesn’t work with MSFS. It works virtually perfectly using the method I described above. I’ve been using Navigraph that way since I started as an Alpha Tester almost a year ago. If you have any questions, just let me know. I am also one of the Navigraph beta testers. It really isn’t rocket science, and it really does work. The BIGGEST problem with the whole flight planning process is inside MSFS, in that MSFS tries to change your plan. I’ve reported this as a bug here, and re-report it after every patch if the flight planning process is still messed up. Navigraph works! PERIOD!!

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This is the answer! Thx for that.

Ok, I have my question: how to copy flight plan from Navigraph to Simbrief? I mean how to copy the route?

One other thing about using Navigraph is using the Navigraph Moving Map feature on their iPad or Android app. It’s AWESOME! Especially if Navigating on the ground at an unknown airport. It connects remotely through the sim. I’ve got my iPad setup using a small clamp-support attached to my desk beside my monitor, and it is an essential part of my setup. I use this with both MSFS and X-Plane.

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Alright @Pizzamonster001, to copy your route is real easy once you have completed your route, there is like a BIG tab underneath your route on your Navigraph Charts screen. Click on the arrow that points down in the center of that tab. After you do that, the Tab slides down a bit and you see some “new” options. In particular, there is a “toolbar” between your route and the Origin/Destination buttons. Click on the button that says, “Type Route.” When you do that, a dialogue box will open that will show your route all typed out in plain text. Highlight and Copy the text of your route. Do not include your departure Airport and Arrival airports, nor your departure and arrival runways. You have to enter that info in the SinBrief planner page. After you have copied your route, you can scroll down on the SimBrief planner page to where your Route Information goes. Simbrief always creates a route for you that is correct according to the current AIRAC cycle. You can erase that route and Paste in the route you created in Navigraph. After that, just tell SimBrief to create your flight plan. Then use the SimBrief downloader (a seperate little app) to download your flight plan into the simulator. It is faster and easier to to do this whole process than it is to explain it all.

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Thank you for your solution. I will definitely try it out.

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I have been running it on one of my side monitors and been loving it!

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Thanks! You make my day

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Flight planning issues still exist inside MSFS. Navigraph flight plans load just fine. However, if you change your starting location to start cold and dark at a gate, MSFS changes your flight plan to what it wants you to fly, instead of what you entered with Navigraph/SimBrief. I caught it on my first flight today after the update (from KCVG to KDFW - 1:52), but missed it on my second flight (from RJTT to VHHH - 3:59). It wasn’t catastrophic to my flight from Tokyo to Hong Kong. I still had the same STAR at VHHH and ILS approach to runway 07R; just some different waypoints in the middle. I flew the A320 from Cincinnati to DFW, and the 787-10 from Tokyo to Hong Kong. Both flights made successful autoland ILS landings. I need to make one more flight tonight to see if the traffic routing at KJAN - Jackson Evers Intl has been corrected. Oh, and the Logbook is way screwed up now. It didn’t record but the first half of each flight time-wise, and only my takeoffs - no landings. Go figure…

select the starting position from the drop down menu and the flightplan change shouldnt happen!

If you want to start at a gate, pick the starting location from the drop down menu under the departure airport. As long as you do that, your imported flight plan will be preserved. If you zoom into the airport on the map and click on a gate there, it will delete your custom plan and replace it with one from the MSFS planner.

I went back and tried selecting my starting position from the dropdown list, as suggested, and my flight plan still got changed - the first time. I rebooted my computer, which means that I also restarted MSFS, and it happened again. I just restarted the sim, and flight plan loaded properly, but without the chosen final approach. I rebooted my computer again, which again means I restarted the sim, again, and that time everything worked perfectly, except for the hidden strobe light in the cockpit, which just about made me puke. At that point, I just quit and gave up for the night. Also, selecting the starting location from the dropdown list sucks because none of the gates/parking stands are numbered correctly, just like the taxiways. What’s really bad is that MSFS has GA aircraft parked on the main terminal ramp at KJAN instead of on the GA ramps. So… Tomorrow is another day. One more thing. Also, at KJAN, MSFS only lists 6 gates, when there are 8 with Jetways, and 2 with Mobile Airstairs.

In some instances MSFS can’t even load it’s own exported .PLN files. There are issues when .PLNs right now. Also the .PLN format changed in MSFS so older software exporting in tbe old format may cause problems.

Things would be a lot clearer if they picked a different file extension if they broke compatibility.

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The problem isn’t with the .pln files, nor the software they are created with. The problem is within the coding for MSFS. I’ve been using the method described above for quite a while now, with no issues. Now, with the last few patch jobs, there are issues. I’ve filed tickets with Zendesk. It will get straightened out eventually. And for me, right now, I can be patient because thankfully, that’s about the only issue I’m having. I still haven’t tested the 747-8i since this latest patch, but will get to it tomorrow.

This is exactly what I do and it works great. Navigraph for MSFS 2020 is still Beta and with MS working on direct import / export and Navigraph working on export to MSFS 2020, this will be resolved. Things are getting better for MSFS 2020 but for now, I do not use it for VATSIM flights until I have more confidence that the major bugs are resolved. I had a few CTD during VATSIM flights and that is very frustrating due to the time invested in getting airborne properly at VATSIM. MSFS 2020 will be the go-to sim but when flying at VATSIM I am staying with X-PLANE 11 for now…

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