Same, really. I’ve been enjoying the Kuro v2.0 787-8 mod for the last week or two lately, but it just whets my appetite for really well-simulated big Boeing long-hauler. At this point, I’m kind of hoping it just appears whole-cloth on the PMDG store page like ‘Ta da!” without any hype or teaser photos.
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Haha that was a good one! 
Is it in beta… again?
To see it from a realistic perspective it will probably release one week after the FenixV2 which will release only a few months after MSFS2024 release, so have patience have patience young pilots because time really flies by. Because what is one year compared to the ad infinitum universe?
Patience, literally eternal patience is the key while waiting for awesome sim aircraft releases (but most of the time game releases too, they also get delayed most of the time…)
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Then once released the EFB will be “reviewed” oh my my ,
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Small updates to the 737 line in the PMDG Ops Center this afternoon. No patch notes yet but RSR’s update last weekend predicted “micro-updates” this week with under-the-hood changes in prep for bigger updates to come down the line.
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Hey, what’s the best way to simulate PAX boarding, fueling and loading baggage in real-time?
There’s a few different elements at play here:
- the MSFS Weight and Balance screen overlay in Settings
- the Fuel and Payload menus within the FMC (has ability to enter weights here - does this override #1, or should it be set to match?)
- The Ground Services menu within the FMC, where you actually call for the fuel truck, the jetway or airstairs, and baggage trucks (also giving you the ability to enter weights for these things) - should this match #1 or #2? Both? Should one be done first?
Seems like grabbing my fuel and PAX info from SimBrief, I should be able to load that into the MSFS Weights and Balances menu, skip #2, and be able to connect a jetway and a fuel truck and add additional fuel there, but the START option never lights up inside of Ground Services FMC menu. So I’m thinking, that makes sense, the fuel is already there - maybe I should zero out the native MSFS Weights panel entirely, use the Fuel and Payload menu to tell the FMC what I’m expecting, and then the Ground Services menu will let me load these elements in real-time?
In addition, my past experiences have shown me that connecting a jetway only allows me to “deplane” passengers using the Ground Services menu (and “unload” cargo) - so I know it thinks I’ve already got a full plane, I’m just not sure how to load in fully “empty”, I guess, and just let the PMDG FMC do all of the work. Ideally I’d like to not use the MSFS Weights and Balances menu at all.
Just not sure of the order of operations here, as far as the dance you gotta do to load this up correctly, would appreciate any help.
NEVER use the in-sim Weights & Balance menu with the 737. Ever. Use the FMC menus only. The Ground Serice menus in the FMC are basically cosmetic.
For max realism and immersion, GSX is the way to go. Use the FMC Fuel menu to set your planned fuel weight. Use the Payload menu to set ZFW and let the aircraft allocate the passenger number and cargo weights autmatically. Then call GSX and “Request Boarding.”
If you ALSO want to add fueling to the process, then hold off on the above - you can’t fuel the plane while PAX are boarding, and GSX requires you to wait on entering fuel weights anyway.
In that case, use GSX to request fueling, Wait for the truck to arrive. Then when prompted by GSX, set your fuel weight in the FMC Fuel page. Wait until that’s done. Then set the FMC Payload weights as described above. Finally, call GSX and Request Boading.
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Thanks for the details and the help. GSX isn’t an option for me unfortunately, as I’m on Xbox. Posting in this thread so as not to derail a lot of heated livery discussion in the other thread at present 
Happy to hear I can largely avoid the native weights and balance menu. Kind of a bummer to hear the Ground Services menu is cosmetic only (real nice looking cosmetics, nonetheless) - in my limited testing of this plane, I was excited to see the ability to enter PAX and FUEL weights not only in the FUEL and PAYLOAD menus, but also right there in the Ground Services menu - figured I could just throw numbers in there, disregard Weights and Balances, wait for the jetway or truck to connect, hit “Start” and start watching that number go up; doesn’t look like that’s the case. Anyhow, thanks again -
The next 737 cockpit overhaul version is slowly creeping closer like a hungry night howler in a new moon´s night
This time what lurks beneath the depths of all guarded switches, again the Flight Management Computer FMC textures, and parts of the night lighting have been overhauled and perfectionized.
Now all guarded switches in the overhead panel look like this, well minus one the passenger oxygen switch looks like a black hole below the switch guard and I have no idea how to change this because the texture should show up normally. I will contact PMDG because of this visual bug but in the meantime the new cockpit overhaul is ready.
Other cockpit elements have been overhauled too like perfect centering and resizing of the circuit breaker board labels, new bumpmap and new texture for the throttle (by the way who had the idea that the TOGA badge should look like crumpled tinfoil? This is also fixed now thanks to new normal map and bumpmap, like for many other cockpit details.
The new FMC computer texture. Fake shadows reduced but not fully gone, all buttons (and their labels and letters) centered as perfect as possible, I have redone the bumpmaps of the inlay around the buttons because not all buttons where perfectly centered. Not they at least look like they were
Slowly the 737 is getting somewhere… nice.
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That is absolutely the case. Not sure why you are being told otherwise.
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Yes I always enter the pax number and fuel in the ground services. Whoever said you cannot use those to load the aircraft is sadly mistaken.
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I figured out the trick, with the help of the original reply, although he was not 100% correct.
Avoid MSFS Weights and Balance menu entirely.
Utilize the FMC Fuel menu and Payload menu as a “what’s loaded in this plane RIGHT NOW?” menu
Utilize the Ground Services fuel, PAX and cargo entries as “what do you WANT there to be?”
This is old news for everyone I assume, but detailing it here in case it helps anyone else.
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Another news update from PMDG:
tl,dr: More small update for the 737 expected this week to address engine spool rates and some texture issues; tablet in final polishing and bug-hunting mode with beta team; 777 making good progress but no details.
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this is not meant to be bad talk but the news from Rsr is the same every time.
there is a lot to do, the tablet is coming soon, the 777 is coming along well but there is nothing to show, for the 737 there is a series of small updates coming bla bla.
if there is important news, then please, but every time the same, thats boring sorry!
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Apparently you did not read the same post that I did. I found it informative. Saw a clarification of what was (or was not) in the small update last week. Got a better understanding of the engine spooling issue, which I thought was quite interesting. The tablet passed another testing hurdle. So, it was a valuable update in my view.
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like always they dont say nothing…
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That was interesting:
“A few thoughts on how we treat one another:
I am well aware that the internet has never been a place of great positivity, inclusiveness and patience.”
This is not fully correct. The internet is the last safe haven of positivity 
But now I´m getting very curious how PMDG is designing the Universal Flight Tablet. (EFB)
Will it look more military and tactical, or more sleek and simple like an iPad? Reeeeeeeeeally looking forward to the first screenshot.
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It better be the best tablet ever made for a flightsim in history, otherwise it will switch from “where’s the tablet?” to “we had been waiting one year for this?”
And I think Mr. Randazzo meant the PMDG forum. It can be really hostile sometimes. Not far from Aerosoft forums (at least as I remember it, I haven’t visited that for months now).
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Except on the Aerosoft forums it are the moderators that are rude and feel “godlike”
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Again
Says a lot but says nothing…
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Imagine getting an EFB with the same quality as the A2A Comanche tablet but with the technical data like the HotStart Challenger instead of piston engine details… With several precise technical data about the engine core, rpm of temperature the turbine shafts. Detailed electrical and hydraulics data. Awesome!
PMDG would instant-become the most beloved and respected company and the Fenix discord would be full with “we want that too, please add these technical details about the turbines and the electrics to the Fenix EFB too!!!”
But with 99,9% probability we will get the default EFB: Load the aircraft, refuel the aircraft, load some Simbrief-stuff.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.
That´s why I have never cared in the first place about the missing EFB or participated in the hate because of the missing EFB because all these things can be done with the Boeing FMC in a way more minimalistic sterile realistic and technical way.
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