[RELEASED] C510 Mustang | Cockspur

XBOX, we only have up or down reference :neutral_face:

That sucks.

Is simbrief flightplan download integrated in the new Update on Xbox?

Can you actually advance the throttles to 100%? I’m using a TM TCA throttle with this, and can only get to like 93%. Is this just the max throttle with this jet? I’ve tried some different sensitivity settings on the throttle, linear and some curves, but can get to full throttle. Throttle works perfectly in other planes…

For the V1 I started with the same base throttle from the CJ(standard linear throttle axis with no tweaks), for mine you can get to full/TO setting, slightly pull back and it drops in the CLIMB ā€˜detent’, then a little more back to CRUISE, then back to a proportional throttle. Easy peasy as it shows the presets on the MFD.

The speed brake setup is excellent too.

Check your sensitivities in the menu to make sure it’s going 100/-100.

Only control-interface issue I seem to have is snap look left/right just goes left/right and stays there.

Reading the Citation_Mustang-Powerplant.pdf:
FADEC calculates the optimal power settings for the T/O, CLIMB and CRUISE. If you keep the throttle into the detent area for each phase, FADEC takes control of the power (fuel flow). If you are outside the detents, you set the power. This works for RL. In the sim, I noticed that you actually can’t move forward from the position the software reads as T/O. So you can’t get 100% power, but just the best one calculated by FADEC. It’s not your throttle hardware calibration issue, it’s the sim, or the Mod, if you want, that doesn’t have a super sharp reading of your throttle position and consider it within the detent area.
No a big deal for performance though.

Yea, those three are just pre-sets. Simplified but they work fine and hit the numbers they’re supposed to. Does the ā€˜user friendly’ nature of the Mustang allow you to go beyond the T/O preset IRL?

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This throttle behavior is by design, and it matches the real airplane. The maximum available thrust for the engine will be achieved in the T/O detent, but that usually is less than 100% N1. The exact engine speed that the FADEC will produce varies with altitude and temperature. In very hot climates, you might see a T/O power in the 85% N1 range. As you climb, the FADEC will often command a slightly faster N1 than it does near sea level.

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Hello all.
Just installed my new Logitech throttle quadrant. While assigning functions I noticed something weird. The 2 engines operated separately have different sound. Left is way less noisy than the right and with different sound. Could someone else try to spool up to full power the 2 engines separately and listen? I had the 2 engines running at idle. I spooled up just one to check lever assignement. Then the other. Different sound.
Among minor downsides, I think that engines sound in this mod needs to be fixed asap. Way too different from RL! Especially during startup.
I have the latest marketplace version, the one with the FADEC working.

Did you see if it sounds the same from the right seat? I’ve never been THAT big on the sounds as long as they are authentic to some degree and don’t loop horribly, outside sounds are only for Superman flying in formation once you’re airborne-there’s no other way anyone would be around to hear it. At 341KT it would just be hurricane sound. I’d imagine you’d be hard pressed to find someone flying one without a headseat either. Maybe a tigermoth with a leather cap on and no headset, or an ultralight. Now something like the EMB110 is enough to shelve it and try to forget that sound over the next few years in flashbacks, it can give you PTSD. A wilga with the doors removes doesn’t sound like a wilga with the doors removed to a pilot of a wilga with the doors removed, they have a headset on.

So at one point you could do air ambulance ops with this thing and now you can’t?

I only use the High Sierra. I think the next livery over is a medical one but haven’t tried it before?

Yes, you can still use the medical variant. The v1.1 update fixed a bug that allowed the static ambulance vehicle to remain visible even when the airplane was flying. But you can absolutely still use the medical variant and have the ambulance parked next to the plane on the ground.

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Thanks! Just picked it up as part of the Black Friday sale. Expected this toggle in the iPhone EFB but apparently it’s tied to liveries.

Also - would someone be willing to host and/or share the pdf manual for this plane? Further up in the thread is a Discord invite link for Cockspur documentation, that has since expired. I have the Marketplace version on Xbox and it is not included. Thanks in advance -

Try this: Discord

Its in the c510 faq section of their discord channel…

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It means the seats are full in the back or you find some seats missing for fitting a search & Rescue portable gurney with patient in the floor area for transport. Not a big deal to me.

I’ve been flying this Mustang for long enough now to give an unbiased appraisal of my own feelings about it. Firstly it’s a real pleasure to fly and the ground handling is very good, I’m not a Mustang pilot but it feels right to me. Also think the model and sounds are fine, yes you can see some polygons round the windows but only when you’re very close, the door ideally should make a noise on opening, but the engine sound can be heard to change subtly with tiny throttle changes which is good. Fuel burn could be better, it uses enough extra fuel to climb and at some cruise levels to negate using real world charts for planning, although airspeed above 25000ft seems pretty accurate.

It’s disappointing so many switches don’t work, especially the Rotary Test Switch, Engine Bleed and Standby Battery switch, all of which are essential for a proper cold & dark start procedure. Additionally the engines should be started with avionics off (for battery start), but the PFDs on which are displayed CAS alerts only come on with the avionics switched on. Pressurization and other MFD display items are currently limited by Working Title constraints I understand.

I really hope Cockspur will give some further love to this airplane, as with a bit more tuning of engine parameters and a touch more system depth this could be really outstanding, especially as there are few Very Light Jets available. I like it because I can fly it as a single pilot, and fast so I can go further in a given time, if it stays in the present form though I think I’ll tire of it.

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On their discord, they mentioned they are currently working on a patch/update for their just released Embraer Phenom 100. Once that is done, they plan on updating the Mustang to bring it up to the same level as the Phenom.

Hey folks!

Ok so just to catch everyone up to speed, and hopefully answer any questions. As stated by Seb the G650 is canceled, we wont be going into any details so please do not ask. We know some people will be upset and we understand.

"PH100 testing continues as we do the final testing for the marketplace release, for those wondering why we are doing a marketplace release before the patch… TL:DR it is easier to update once its there than it is to start over the testing and other steps required to get it on MP. That being said the update is already been shown by me on a few streams and fixes to a lot of bugs from release are being fine tuned

C510! Once we get the PH100 on marketplace and the update complete, we will start on what will be C510 V2, we do NOT have a timeline yet other then after the PH100 updates are complete. Everything in the PH100 will be retro back to the C510

As always thanks for all the love and support! Did I mention we have the best mods?"

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hopefully the panel can be sorted out a little bit, it’s somehow further away than it is IRL, so sitting with your head at the headrest, the displays are way far away and tiny, in what is a very cozy tight cockpit. Too small to use from the ā€˜correct’ seating position POV, even on a 55". Something is modeled a bit off, should be more like a sporty coupe up front. It’s like 6" too far forward.