how about this one:
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/trees-low-draw-distance-after-sim-update-3-no-fun-anymore/376917/96?u=ju1ius2416
Thatās nice, thatās sim update 3. The post here is that tree distance got even worse in SU4.
The general concensus is that it has to do with terrain mesh. Itās fine in flat areas like Florida, the OP said it got worse in Alaska for him, but he didnāt have any comparison shots. So, whoās to say?
This nonsense about trees is never going to end. There was a joke made in the live chat about āstudy level treesā. I donāt see any issues with trees, they are right there, as far as the eye can see.
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As far as they eye can see?
LOD at 200, Trees ultra, Alert, NU (82.5 degrees North)
The irony, no trees grow there at all. But tree distance getting affected by latitude is a real issue.
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I have this game, I play this game, and thatās not what I see, I see plenty of trees all over the map. Donāt call me a troll either, petulance is unbecoming.
Yea you will see trees like that if your flying at 1000 ft agl. The fact is, no matter what your perception of these facts are, is that the tree draw distance in awful. Most areas it only draws out to about 5 nm. This is fine low to the ground but quickly becomes noticeable the higher you climb. When you are cruising around at 10k ft agl it looks like c*ap. This is not open to interpretation. Especially not since we once had trees all the way to the horizon with no impacts to performance.
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since youāre playing something different hereās another one, north of norway, maybe 4-5miles and after that itās FSX
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Some of you guys need to hop on a real GA aircraft.
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Florida - tree go out a good distance
North Carolina - trees appear on mountains and further into the distance
Alaska - trees stop a few miles out well before the mountains, and the mountains look like FSX
You can see in Alaska, there is basically a line where the trees just cut off before the river
Hope this helps It wouldnāt let me upload the screenshot yesterday for some reason
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NOTE: This is a bug that needs attention right now before World Update 5 comes out. I will report this BUG every day until itās fixed. The community has been waiting for months and months for this to be fixed. I know Asobo is soon finishing optimizations to make the trees draw further, BUT Iām pretty sure this is a different BUG that will remain after Asoboās optimizations.
Image 1 above shows how awful the World Update 5 will look in the Nordics (ICAO: EFOP) if the Update still doesnāt include any change on treesā draw distance. The trees draw distance in the Nordics by default is less than 4 nautical miles nor 10 nautical miles like Asobo stated on the latest Dev Q&A. The Equator in Colombia gave me a draw distance of 8 nautical miles with TLOD 125. Meanwhile, in Finland, less than 4 nautical miles only.
Image 2 below is the same location (ICAO: EFOP) with the FSBlogās tree mod before Sim Update 3 broke it. The draw distance was 8 nautical miles with TLOD 125 and 10 nautical miles with TLOD 200. This is what the community wants EVERYWHERE on the Planet.
The BUG is: The trees draw distance decreases on the way from the Equator (10 nautical miles) towards the North/South Poles (less than 4 nautical miles), meaning the trees draw distance bug is somehow related to latitude. This bug needs more attention and a patch before World Update 5 is released.
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This was addressed in the Q&A. Seb really feels that the tree draw distance is exactly the same as in July 2020, just the trees are smaller. I beg to differā¦
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I think we all beg to differ. Does he not look at screen shots in the forums because it would be hard to miss if he didā¦
I think many of us would be happy if asobo would revert the change that rendered the tree mod useless. At least when the tree mod worked it fixed the issue (despite it being a 3rd party work around and not an official fix) but that was good enough for me.
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I have a sneaky feeling that like the live weather on first flight, the old lightning bug, etc, that this is an issue that not everyone is seeing.
Iāve heard people complaining about lack of tree distance since pretty much launch. Yet, I didnāt see what people were complaining about. I had trees as far as the eye could see everywhere even with modest settings (Terrain LOD: 80-100, Trees: High). I honestly thought people were just being too picky. Upping my settings did increase draw distance and quality, but only very marginally. It wasnāt worth the performance hit for me.
Since WU4, Iāve joined the club os short tree draw distances. My trees draw out to maybe a couple of miles out from my position. Even if I put TLOD at 200 (which murders my frame rate) and trees at Ultra, it makes no difference to draw distance any more. Outside of that radius, my landscape and everything looks like itās out of a flight sim from the 90s. Terrain is super low resolution with no trees. And I can watch trees popping in ahead of me as I fly.
Yet there are people (Seb included) that post shots and videos showing trees as far as the eye can see.
Mine looks exactly like @Ju1ius2416 's screen shot here. Iām at work right now, so canāt go take my own screen shots, but itās exactly like that.
I donāt even think they use the same public build that we do, so they donāt see the issues we do.
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I watched the dev Q&A where he talks about the trees. He said they made them smaller and therefore more trees need to be rendered to cover the same ground. But that isnāt the issue were talking about here. You can clearly see from pictures I and others have posted above that the trees abruptly stop being rendered on a hard line in certain places (like the Alaska photo I posted). There definitely seems to be a bug where the further you are from the equator, the less draw distance you get. There is evidence for this posted in this thread. Iāll agree the problem doesnāt seem to be everywhere.
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Iām sorry to say this here as I know it will be controversial but Iāve never had a problem with tree draw distance. Trees on ultra, render scaling at 150 and Terrain LOD at 200. Trees as far as I can see. Certainly in the areas I fly, Innsbruck, and all round the UK. My trees do not stop abruptly like the above screen shot so this isnāt an issue that is affecting everyone. Sorry that is probably unhelpful but I thought Iād add my comments. Iām totally satisfied with this, and Iām sorry if you wouldnāt be:
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And I think thatās the issue. Asobo canāt reproduce the issue some of us are seeing. To them, nothingās changed. Even to may end users, it seems like nothingās changed. But thereās a subset of us that are affected.
For me, lattitude makes no difference. Thereās no difference in draw distance whether Iām flying over the Amazon, Florida, my home area of eastern Ontario (Canada) or up in the boreal forests of the sub-arctic. Itās like the screen shot I quoted from @Ju1ius2416 in my post above. Thereās a distinct radius of a couple of miles around my plane where there are trees. Beyond that, zero trees and super low res ground textures.
I also comment and show this in my latest YouTube video. The scenery looks beautiful inside that immediate radius, but looks like FS9 outside.
Neither did I until WU4. I always thought others were being too picky. Until it started happening to me as well.
Oh absolutely, I wasnāt having a dig, Iām sorry if it came over that way. I hope this gets resolved so everyone has the same experience.
Not at all dude. Just pointing out that I was in the same situation as you previously. Now Iām part of the low res scenery club as well. No offense taken.
I really think that like the live weather on first flight, low res photogrammetry, and people not seeing any live traffic at all bugs, this is a server-side issue that needs to be solved.
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I am in the ālive weather only on first flightā and āno live trafficā clubs so my experience is not totally flawless! We will persist. This time next year, we might be about there.
I see live traffic, although I do have occasional flights where there is none, despite the fact that Iām in super busy airspace that should have loads of it. Itās much like live weather. Iāll have traffic on first flight, and then none on subsequent unless I restart the sim.
Since WU4, live weather had been working for me roughly 50-50, and is session based. One session, I may not get live weather on second flight. The next, I can do multiple flights with weather. It seemed quite random. No changes between sessions either. Same server (NA East via auto selection), no settings changed, etc.
Since SU4, so far Iāve had weather on every flight. But thatās about 4 unique sessions total, so not enough for me to declare the problem as āfixedā for me. But at least thatās looking promising.