Upfront payment model doesn't really make sense for third party addons

Absolutely no friggin way. Not for airports, not for airplanes and not for the sim as a whole.
I also don’t use it for ride share cars or electric scooters, while we’re at it.
Convince me that your product is good, or that you will support it for a reasonable time and I will give you a fair amount of money.
If the product is not what I expected, I did not research it well enough. If you don’t deliver as promised on service or updates, I guess you fooled me once. It ain’t happening again.
Deliver as promised and you can be fairly sure I will buy the next product as well.

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Unless there was a way to deactivate the product, people would pay the initial subscription to get the product, deactivate their subscription but still use it, and only if a major update came along would they resubscribe to get the update. Its like when people binge watch Paramount+ for a month then cancel their subscription again until next year. This is just another spin on the rental theme that seems to come up every 6 months or so. No matter the way that the “benefits” are described, the same goal is being attempted, having a cheap way to purchase addons for limited time usage.

Whats to stop developers abusing the subscription service on the aircraft your purchase?
you want autopilot, that’s x tier for an extra x amount a month, gps? oh that’s an additional x amount a month too. Subscription services are bad news for the consumer, i’d rather pay up front in full.

Nope. I’d not do a subscription. That’s why I bought MSFS rather than doing Gamepass.

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200?!
How do you even have time for them all?

What? :slight_smile:

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There’s a profound difference between owning 200 aircraft addons and subscribing to them at $600/month :laughing: I’m a working adult who runs a comprehensive database of addons, so owning a lot of them is pretty helpful. This is also effectively my only hobby, so… I try not to judge others for how they spend their money :wink: The point is, people like me who support developers as eagerly as I do would not survive in a per-addon subscription model.

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Well, MFS has been out for over 3 years. I ran a YouTube channel about addons for a bit. I love flight simulation and like to support developers who support my hobby. It definitely adds up over time! Thank goodness I only had to buy those addons once.

Point taken. I have a fair number myself and I agree with you about subs 110%. Still that’s a LOT of money and it just struck my funny bone :rofl:

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Over 3 years, it ain’t so bad. £50-£80 a month budget for my hobby is where I’m comfortable at (not including hardware lol). I don’t think it’s ridiculous anyway but yeah for me it’s not so much the cost, but whether I’d actually fly it often enough with the time I have, or it’s really that different or better than similar stuff I already have now. I’m at about 150+ Payware aircraft now and a shed load of scenery, utilities etc.

I think I’ve slowed down a bit on aircraft purchases recently though. Pretty much covered for every type but I’ll still grab anything interesting or of high quality. Too much choice!

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Oh it’s all good, I probably got a tad defensive but in reality I could have just replied “I never said I was smart with my money” :laughing:

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I think this is a very real phenomenon. I’ve bought the Learjet this year and the Bell 47J and that might be it. I thought for sure I’d buy the XF-11, the Analog P2006T, and/or the DA-42, but I haven’t bought any of them. I feel like something has to really scratch an itch or I just don’t care anymore. The Learjet is the one addon that really hit home. FSW has put a ton of effort into it and it’s practically all I fly now. It was a category I was missing: Vintage analog business jet with many still flying today.

I keep saying the Dukes coming out by Black Square are must buys (at least the piston.) But will I actually buy either? I don’t know anymore. It’s been a year of surprises when it comes to what I will (or rather won’t) buy. Who am I even??

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If ANYTHING directly related to this sim (not talking about services like simbrief, etc) goes to a subscription payment model i’ll wipe every trace of it off my computer and never look back.

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No. Just no. Please no.

Subscription models have become as prevalent as they are purely because they extract more money from the consumer in the long run. There are so many things you can’t actually “own” now. It’s a greed infection spreading all over digital media.

If you find yourself regularly spending money on planes that you then don’t use, and you have a problem with that… then just be a big boy and don’t be as impulsive with your purchases? Don’t ruin flight simming with this garbage. I don’t want to have to think about which planes I’m still “subscribed” to when I get time to hop on MSFS. Things like Navigraph make sense, since that’s a continuously updating real-world database… when it comes to planes I just want to buy it ONCE, as hard as that is in this day and age…

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Nope, absolutely not. I would never support this for all of the same reasons already discussed. There is also a similar topic that was brought up that most folks shot down as horrible.

A big “Nope” from me too.

Best advice in the thread.

In my opinion, having both options would be the perfect solution.
This would also solve the missing refund option which many wish for.

And it would motivate the developers to keep up the quality and improvements.
Release quality is often kind of “beta”.

I’ve been quite disappointed by some bought addons, and there is just not a “YouTube review” for every anddon available.

You could then subscribe for 1-2 months and fully buy it when you decide to use it longer.

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I keep telling myself, “Quit buying new planes for a while. You’re so far behind in your SPAD programming that you never fly any of them.”

Of course I bought the Lear 35A, the XF-11, and the DA-42. :rofl:

“My name is BegottenPoet228, and I’m a modaholic…”

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Subscriptions? - no way.