Have a few only,
- Lama
- Alouette III
- Mini
4 .47g
5 .47j
and i am shure Taog´s Huey will be No1 in future 
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Thanks for the DCS OH-6A recommendation. That thing is a blast!
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I’m coming back to this topic after a little while. My list is very short:
- Inibuilds Bell 47J
I decided to dedicate my helo flight time to a single one and the Bell 47J won me over with its great visibility, great model, initially challenging flight model, and overall history.
I play on Xbox using the controller and have had issues with the control scheme. I tried the bespoke gamepad scheme, but had trouble with the anti-torque pedals. I kept spinning out of control. I am using the helicopter assists, by the way.
So I used the standard controls, which worked okay, but I missed how the collective is controlled by the right stick in the bespoke scheme, and I kept finding myself flying through the air like a pendulum, swinging fore and aft. I took a second look at the bespoke helicopter gamepad scheme and learned that the triggers increment the anti-torque pedals – I need to tap them rather than hold them.
Suddenly everything started working better. I could fly more smoothly, hover a lot more easily and steadily, and land a lot more softly.
I’ve reduced the bespoke scheme’s left stick sensitivity and control is even better. Finally, I started using the rotor trim enabled by the controls, which make longer flights easier and sometimes helps on hovering too.
Now I know that the real Bell 47 did not have a governor, but I enable it anyway (although I’ve flown without it and it’s okay), nor did it have rotor trim. For that matter, I use the cyclic and tail rotor assists. I’m willing to compromise to be able to sit in my recliner and play this game on a 65 inch TV.
Interestingly, my customized control scheme is too sensitive for me for the Cabri G2, which I still fly occasionally and very much like. My custom scheme does seem to work okay with the Asobo Bell 407, which I’m also enjoying flying from time to time.
Nevertheless, the majority of my MSFS 2020 time for the past two months has been in the Bell 47J, which I am enjoying immensely!
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The SimFocus Bell 407 mod has really turned this default helo around and made it a favorite lately: Simfocus Bell 407 Improvement Mod - simfocus.com
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This kind of collaboration (for a FREE mod, no less) is really cool!
From the simfocus web page:
Huge thanks to everyone who helped in this mod’s development!
Exil35, thanks for extensive help with coding the systems, and for creating the flightmodel (as well as lots of research on performance, equations and putting it all together.)
Davux3, thanks for help with coding the MGT and the Slip-ball.
GotGravel, thanks for letting us use your VRS/RBS code.
MikPyt, thanks for help with coding and tweaking the xml part of things, as well as figuring out needle split.
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Yeh it’s pretty cool. Flew it a few hours in a group flight a couple of evenings ago.
Something weird though is that you can do 160+ knots (180) and not get into RBS. Handy for catching up in group flights though!
I set fire to the engine a couple of times lol. No visual flames sadly but I tried!
Funny. They warn you that RBS is coded. Maybe they got knots/mph mixed up.
From Wiki: Maximum speed: 140 kn (160 mph, 260 km/h)
Max maneuvering speed doesn’t mean that anything above that will cause RBS. It may be higher than ~200kts. The problem with trying to implement the fringe aerodynamic effects is that there isn’t a lot of real world data to base it on. Pilots fly to try and avoid these phenomenon because bad things happen when they are encountered in the real world, and unfortunately a lot of pilots that encounter these effects don’t live to tell about it. They may test during certification, but even then it’s risky. The B525 Relentless has been delayed due to fatal crashes testing at the edge of the flight envelope and that is a very modern, advanced machine with testing done under modern, controlled conditions.
This is why I feel things like simulating RBS & VRS don’t carry as much weight as the community puts on them. When you train for your certifications in the real world, you learn the techniques to avoid these conditions.
If you are flying along in the 407 and you realize you are approaching/exceeding 140kts, back off the speed. That is what you would do in the real machine, and that is a more realistic way to approach the simulation.
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Hi! The RBS is coded in, it’s dependant on weight, and at MTOW is triggered around 160 knots indicated (so wayyyy above what you can achieve in level flight), and it increases with lower weights.
If you try hard, you’ll get into RBS, but just like Belatu42 explained, it’s not like Vne + 5kt = helicopter flips over, the 140kt limit is dictated by many factors, with added safety margins etc.
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Okay everyone, of the helicopters in the top rated aircraft sale, which do you recommend?
I’m looking at the 500E, as the Hughes 500 is a favorite of mine, but a couple others look neat.
The MilTech CH-47 is fantastic. A blast to fly, they just really made a great module with that one.
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I am flying 90% choppers now. Using Neofly 4 to run a heli service in NY and LA. Have the autogen heli pads V2.( Mostly good, but some pads are not there or inside a building. Land on the roof at your own risk) ( don’t land on the roof btw )
Not fond of what they did to the H145 flight model with the latest update. Less predictable, choppy when departing. I think a lot of these issues persist because developers do not use a motion platform to test.
So the list.
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H160. Chopper supreme. I will probably never be able to afford it in Neofly but using free-lance flights you can still do missions in it. Smooth as butter. Beautiful flight model.
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H125. Very nimble. Good all-round heli. Hard to control in straight long flights. Also because no autopilot. So mainly a platform hopper around LA.
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H145. Would have been number 2 if not for the quirks. If helicopters were computers, this one would be an IBM. If helicopters were beer, this would be a Carlsberg. If helicopters were knives, this would be a Swiss army knife. In other words, you can’t go wrong, for any mission, if you choose an H145.
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Cabri G2 Guimball. One of the best simulations in MSFS. Again, the flight model, as per my motion rig, is awesome. This is my only company heli in Neofly but it’s no hassle to fly this one. Pure fun.
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Taog’s Lama. Pure animalistic power at your finger tips. It’s not suited for a lot of missions, but it’s a hoot to fly. Special one, nothing like it.
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Taog’s Huey. Unfortunately I would have liked to like this more. It’s a relaxed flyer, a wonderful rendition of the concept of vertical flight but it has some issues. I think it’s rather heavy on the system. Sometimes the toolbar does not appear. There is unbearable jerky telemetry while just sitting on the ground. It has awesome whacka-whacka though.
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Shrike 530F. I don’t hate it, I don’t like it. There is nothing wrong with it but I just never feel like flying it.
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Bell 47G. I have never felt comfortable in this one. In VR it feels weird. Don’t know if it’s me or the graphics. I get motion sickness sometimes, and I never get motion sickness in the sim. It’s a beautiful machine though.
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Ooops I posted in the wrong topic!
Thanks for your votes there @QBziZ
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What is actually the most easy helicopter to hover and to taxi? The Got Friends Mini 500? I don’t care if it’s realistic or not, I’m just looking for an easy to fly yet functional and not too ugly to look at helicopter to do some sightseeing. I already have the HPG H145 and I hate it. It’s far too difficult to hand fly this thing close to the ground. I don’t care if it’s on rails and GTA like or not. I just wanna have some fun.
I don’t want to troll, this is a genuine question.
The Taog Huey is nice and stable for me, but I’m used to helicopters. The Mini 500 may be a good option if you are new to them.
MilTech CH-47 without a doubt. The tandem rotor configuration eliminates the need for you to balance the anti-torque forces with tail rotor input.
It hovers like a dream even with all assists off.
Highly recommended for new helo pilots.
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The Ka-10 HAT. Counter rotating rotors so it does not yaw.
…oh wait, scratch that idea!
Yeah I’d go for the Chinook, though it’s not really a “normal” helicopter.
You can always turn on the assists in any of them though. And I know I keep going on about it but honestly the Fly Inside Bell 206 is a great option. You can literally tune it to be as easy or difficult as you want and change it as you get more experience. Even at the easiest setting it still really makes you feel like you’re flying a real helicopter.
I would try the default Cabri G2 with the helicopter assists on.
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Been mostly focusing on DCS lately and got into helicopters there – mostly flying the KA-50 III Blackshark and having a blast.
Thought, hmmmm…MSFS would be a hoot with helicopters so picked up the Airbus H160.
Wow, good times. Doesn’t feel as authentic as the DCS helicopters, but was super engaging and fun and just was smiling as I was flying throughout the PNW. With autopilot stability control stuff was like flying a plane. May try to tinker with the settings and such to geat a more helicopter like feel, but that is my #1 chopper atm…
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The Cowansim R22 is so shockingly good I have to pinch myself. Definitely worth picking up if you catch a sale. As good as any other Helicopter I have flown in sim.
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