Weird Looking Volume Drive in Defrag casused by MSFS

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What is invading our systems, what to fix, chill out…

First of all there’s nothing to “fix” - hidden system files and other system things are something users are not supposed to touch, delete or whatever if they don’t know what they’re doing.
What kind of thinking is that ?
You want the developers to explain what they’re doing…to users ?
To explain something which takes 10 years of studying and 10 years of experience to end-users ?
That won’t happen.

Also, if you have had an unfortunate experience, that doesn’t mean everyone has it - actually it’s a small percentage of users who experience such failures.
No software is perfect - but also user’s machines ain’t perfect in any way.
You have to understand that every piece of software, every patch for anything, every update for Windows and its components (and for MSFS and other AAA titles as well) go trough a rigorous process of testing that’s performed according to stringent industry standards.
According to those standards, something like Windows or a AAA title MUST NOT and WILL NOT be released if the detection of bugs, failures and other errors would occur in any significantly larger test sample.

I’m trying to tell you that the stuff you experienced is actually a rare occurrence.
Any issues you were or are experiencing, surely do not stem from the hidden virtual drives - and you surely cannot prove that.

Get a computer engineer degree…or…or just don’t touch anything. :slight_smile:

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So, end users have not the right to know whats happening on his machines and we have to obtain an engineer degree to know by ourselfs what the services we are paying for are technically doing? No, I’m sorry but I can’t agree whit that. OS’s users have a wide range of computing experience and tasking neccesities. From none to expertise, from domestic to profesional. A platform like Windows must almost try to cover and support all that range. Maybe I dont need to learn all the in deep details a developer must own to implement XVD, but to know what are basically doing in my hard drive and where are coming from or what service created that, is a must. I dont know if is a developer obligation to do that, but… I know Microsoft is loosing the respect to user when I open a system tool like Defrag to discover all this unknow volumes with no description about. First thing you may suspect can be a malware action for example. And if the user have a minimun knowlegment the most rasonable action is to invest what the hell is that and what are doing there. Next rasoneble step is to go device manager, show hidden devices awaiting his next connection and discover dozens and dozens of XVD for only two gamepass games. I supposed because I dont know where are coming from. The gamepass theory is the result of my invest and, no, this is not exceptional case. This is happening to every gamepass users so… almost a cheap tech note is required to help wide range users to identify thats not a malfunction or a malware infection. If this is a “normal” behaviour it must be documented. Because, remember, Windows is the host, not the malware. Isn’t it?

Don’t touch anything is not a reasonable answer for an OS (operative, system). Think about the meaning of that words. And no, a 10 years experience answer is not required to be respectful with us. It is a little more easy. What’s happening upstairs when an Alpha 100€ supossed AAA game runs over a beta pay service like Xbox gamepass PC app, crossed with a permanently malfuntioning Microsoft store?. What happends is the system starts doing weird things. Things that may drive user to reinstall all system from zero bacause of “unknow” failures. From unlimmited ghost volumes to speed limiting NIC’s. All this things and more are happening only since Xbox services own my machine.

Maybe you as user are confortable with that. Not me.

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End users are basically given a plenty of documentation together with the OS. There are number of laws and regulation governing everything you mentioned. Every information you inquired is actually there within Microsoft knowledge-base.
I really don’t get your frustration.

You are obviously angry due to having experienced a number of issues over the years…
Then you mention malware, xvd, potential threats, problems, etc. It doesn’t have anything to do with anything, it’s as if you’re talking about some conspiracy theories man…

Xvd…it’s hidden…it’s classified as a system module hidden by default with a reason, and there’s a setting in Windows by which you can enable the visibility of such objects - when you do that, you get a warning that you should basically know what you’re doing, correct ? Correct.
Now, what is the issue you are experiencing on your system, being caused by 3 or 50 such containers present ?
You can present your case to the Microsoft support, there is a technical documentation you will fill out, you will explain the issue and the exact way to reproduce it, etc.

But you know what I think ?
I think you just don’t like the aesthetics of 3 or 50 something unknown to you being present there where you decide to…touch…that’s all. :slight_smile:

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A doctor writes the analysis for a patient after the performed ECG examination, then goes on with providing an explation to the patient in layman’s terms.
If that patient subsequently demands to know what does the “QT interval” entry on that report mean, the doctor doesn’t have any obligation to explain it whatsoever…and my colleges working in medical fields of science and I actually talked about this years ago and we all agree that they absolutely do NOT have such an obligation…
…let alone to justify a situation in which a doctor decides to explain it after all, followed by patient not understanding a word anymore and going on a tamper-tantrum claiming he/she is being denied the right to know what’s going on inside his/her body !!?

Like, whaaaat ?? :raised_hand_with_fingers_splayed::astonished:

OR ! :point_up::smirk:

A person picks up a prescription, a pharmacist provides the necessary information…a person then goes on to read the medication’s pharmacokinetics on Wikipedia while taking a dump, at one point all of a sudden having his attention drawn to a notice within some passage there about his medication’s slight potential in causing “rise in CYP2D6 cytochrome”.
A person subsequently goes back to the pharmacy and starts givin’ s** to the pharmacist demanding an explanation of “CYP2D6” and why is there a potential of it rising when he/she takes that medication !*
Because he/she just doesn’t like that…sounds bad when something is…rising…somewhere there…rubs the wrong way, know what I mean…?
Also, that “cytochrome”, why have people not been given any explanation about any of those things…that are…rising…
…the evil drug and these insidious hidden system files, xvd containers and the evil pharmacists, doctors, programmers and engineers conspired in a massive malpractice and human rights violation - they should hang !!

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You know, it is called madness.
No, you won’t be given an explanation, get a degree or learn it by yourself, whatever.