With a new Pc, W10 or W11, WYOP

may be not better, but more a must for new hardware ( at least after 2025 ), as @CooganBear already mentioned :slight_smile:

And I do same… I not upgrade my existing rig to win11… All these stuff which these company try to force me to do, is nothing what I want do and there is absolutly no reason to do that as view of a consumer. All these useless schicki-micki UI stuff, the millions wrapper around the old win controll center, etc. I do not need ( more in contras I hate it, because all the important settings are hidden behind 50 clicks somewhere deep in dialogs ). The thing I remember are sentence like “window 10 is the last OS”, etc. Its all about lies and lost trust related to the manufator of these OS :wink:

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There is a Linux OS.

One thing I’ve now discovered, in case it bothers anyone… you can’t drag the taskbar to a second monitor like you could with win10.

However, you can have it show on ALL monitors, and if you also have it auto hide the taskbar, it only unhides (if that’s a word?), on the monitor you’re using… so this still works ok for me.

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unfortunately the gaming features was blocked for years by nvidia, and so its now not realy an alternative for gaming and so I assume not about the question from OP was. But yes, in point of raw OS feature aspects it is the better OS :slight_smile:

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Windows 11 insider beta, works fine, no problems

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Yes, Windows 10 was supposed to be their “Final” OS. Guess they lied about that.
Microsoft should have given us an option to keep Windows 10 look & layout. Like the Start Menu. Holy cow did they bork that. It looks terrible.
The navigation is so bad in Windows 11. On Windows 10 we can right-click on the task bas to access various settings. Like Tas Manager an such. Can’t do that in Windows 11. Now you have to do multiple clicks in order to access things that are simple in Windows 10.

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My first look at Win 11 and: WOW!
This is weird. I don’t like it.

After about 3 days, getting used to it and exploring it,
it feels like home.
I like it.

As to Task Manager, put it on your Taskbar. One click.

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or you could right click on the start button , task manager is shown among other features. The latest w11 update kb5014668 is troublesome on the “features” it adds.

Really hope the audio is not degraded. I’m also sort of an “audiophile” and stream high resolution Qobuz using RME ADI-2 DAC with Dan Clark AEON 2 headphones. That setup was not cheap - almost as expensive as an MSFS computer. I use “wasapi exclusive” in Win 10 when dedicated to listening. If Win 11 degrades that sound quality over Win 10, I would be “extremely” upset.

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You can verify for youself that the sound is degrade. Just use a program that can accurately read the audio output signal. I use Adobe Audtion. I enjoy muti-track recording music I’ve created.
Anyways, you will see that Windows 11 has 5db lower output than Windows 10 at max volume.

Shouldn’t have to tweak everything that Microsoft makes. Having to do that to this SIM is quite enough for me. Thank you.

Well that is B.S!!! Seriously, that SUCKS and is foolish on MS Part!!! So I have to keep a dedicated Win 10 laptop just for that???

It was “EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE” to buy audio equipment with >120db SNR/SINAD.

So even a dedicated external soundcard does not overcome it???

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I think you’ll be ok, since your using a dedicated sound card you won’t be using Windows 11 audio drivers.
My other PC has a SoundBlast Xtreme, but doesn’t support Windows 11, so I can’t test it.

Interesting.

I never thought about a 120db SNR/SINAD
in an airplane.

LOL @ Win11 more options … wait that’s the old menu, always was meme applies

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If you are using a separate sound card and not windows sound drivers then everything should be fine , I use audigy FX , not the best sound card out there but no difference migrating from windows 10 to 11

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I actually like Win11 WAY more than Win10. I only use my PC for gaming and browsing and based on this it is perfect. I just like the way it looks and feels compared to Win10. It’s much smoother and looks more modern than the old Win10. Take the icons for example, they look more detailed compared to the old looking win10.

Idk, that’s just me. I like how it looks and runs. On my high end system, it does run just a bit faster(booting up, shutting down, opening apps) than win10.

I always hear people complain about missing stuff and other issues with Win11, but for me there is absolutely nothing missing compared to how I used Win10 before. Maybe it’s because I don’t dwell deep into the system of it but as far as a normal user, don’t see anything missing or working incorrectly.

“your PC login must be associated with your Microsoft account” is a complete dealbreaker for me, one of many reasons being the risk of lockout when something goes wrong on microsoft’s servers

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it’s for me also not only the driver situation ( in special for sound devices )… its also about these forcing to e.g. secure boot, and all that stuff. My second PC, and old i7 /16gig / 970gtx is my test-pc and was marked as “not ready for win11” and that mainly because: the TPM B…S etc… I used Rufus and all works fine, independent of what the MS told me. I noticed that win11 need much more resources ( the other kind of lie: the contracts with the hardware industry. Let run win xp on new hardware, and you not would believe how fast a OS can be ). Also my main-pc: with some bios tweaks from board manufactor the TPM force-issue is gone, but my drive isnt GPT partion ( necessary because forcing uefi ) . I would can transfer it from MBR to GPT, but there is a high risc. And again, there is not a single usefull reason for that forcing, at least not single reason where the consumers have a beneffit. Win11 is nothing else as a OS to force users to buy new hardware - of course thats only my personal opionion.

But of course, with a brand new PC, I would also install this… I think there is no other way. I assume content creators switch more and more to win11 to and the “creator” of win11 will add some “must have” features into the OS, so that there is no chance to stay with win10.
I also not against future development of an OS, but may be it is because of my “age” and the experience over the years with in special these OS manufactor ( and how the consumers count ).

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I was able to get around the TPM issue by enabling fTPM in my BIOS. Didn’t have to mess around buying a TPM chip. Motherboard is an Asus Rog Strix 570-F.
Might want to take a look in your BIOS for a TPM or fTpm setting.

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