Two great add-ons released today, both snub msfs 2024.
What on earth is going on here. 2024 has been out +3 months, we have probably the most advanced airliner coming (For MSFS ever) and it supports both 2020/2024. What are these developers doing? Do they even want money, and also Asobo must never ever put us/Developers in this position again.
This is terrible and just unacceptable.
If like me you bought the hype and went to msfs 2024 exclusive here is what you won’t be flying today!!
Uh, I think the developers have their hands full digesting 24, as they didn’t get the SDK tools needed until SU1 launched a few weeks ago, if I read their posts correctly. They are in the position of having to continue to release wares in 2020 to maintain an income stream while only recently have been able to get started in earnest on 24 compatible products. For the most part, they too were sitting on their hands between launch and SU1, waiting for the tools they needed to develop for 24 in earnest. Why heap our rage on them for that unfortunate situation? Am I missing or misunderstanding anything here?
You have a point. But how are other Devs doing it. Quite a few 2020 add-ons have been updated to 2024.
Why not do both for new add-ons. They are showing no faith in 2024 which in turns make us think well nobody develops for 2024.
I don’t know but this is a complete mess and it’s going to get worse if someone doesn’t grasp the nettle soon.
Developers are still making addons for X-plane only. I can totally understand making something for 2020 right now, since it works. What if SU1 breaks something? The marketplace isn’t even out yet for 2024. There are quite a few people still waiting for 2024 to sort out issues.
Yeah, I think @Nikita has a point. And we’re getting this (apparently, we’ll see for sure when it’s released) “advanced” airliner from iniBuilds, who probably worked more with the sdk than anyone else, having made several of 2024’s default airliners - they have a bit of an advantage over other devs.
Additionally, different devs use different codes and methods to create their addons, some of which weren’t properly available or documented within the sim until recently (including both PMDG and iFly). I don’t know the details of this, but I’ll take these devs on their word since their livelihoods depend on creating things for us to enjoy.
It all just makes me glad I have the space to continue running both sims (plus another, just for good measure). Besides, I’d rather devs not rush their products - I want a quality product, not something that launches with as many bugs as the sim did.
More people are using 2020 than 2024 last time I saw so why wouldn’t you. Also any project you see released now would have started dev using 2020 so it makes sense to continue on as you started. They can always have a compatibility update like existing 2920 add ons later.
I presume it’s easier to implement in 20 and once 24 settles it will be easy transition.
I just hope we don’t get hammered with upgrade costs to 24 later down the line. I believe PMDG are going to do this which I’m ok with but I hope not every dev follows this.
Here is the trade-off for me: I bought a LOT of DLC for 2020 over the years that MSFS was available for Xbox. Will NOT be doing that again in 24. There is a short-list of high quality aircraft models that I will gladly pay good money for 24 fully-compatible versions. This list is VERY short. Those developers have a LOT of work to do to make those models fully 24 compatible, and I will gladly pay for that hard work, full freight. That expenditure will be paid for by NOT repurchasing all the stuff I bought in 2020 that is either junk, obsolete or never was worth purchasing in the first place. In the end, the transition to 24 will be very economical for me, and not so much for the developers who didn’t produce quality products in the first place.
Exactly… all of 2020 was less than 1% of Microsoft revenue over the 4 years before 2024’s release. We are not a priority, Asobo is under pressure, Microsoft is not
I could run both sims, but I dont see the point. MSFS 2024 is miles better looking, miles better performance (For Me anyway) even in heavy add-ons with BATC traffic, all sorts of apps open in the Background (Flight Sim Related) I am yet to see sub 50FPS even at inibuilds OMDB with their A300. Since the updates (Beta) it has come on a lot. I just cant see why I would want to go back to 2020 and I wont be.
People are likely finishing products that were started a while back. They were designed / engineered for 2020 and the developers might as well put them out rather than wait until they can do the extra work for 2024 compatibility.
Can’t imagine too many new projects are being started for 2020 only.
Unfortunately, I don’t get consistently good performance from 2024. Twice it’s just randomly tweaked out on me, like it ran great for weeks and then one evening I fire it up and boom - terrible performance, stutters everywhere, without me changing anything since the previous day, and that can last for a week. Last time a reinstall fixed it, and fortunately reinstalls are a lot faster than 2020 but it’s still a nuissance.
But also, I have quite a few planes in 2020 that aren’t updated for 2024 - especially the airliners I want to fly. So I head over to 2020 for those airliner flights: PMDG 737s & 777, TFDi MD-11, Fokker F28 & BAe-146 from Just Flight, for example. 2020 might not look as nice or fly quite as nice as 2024, but I still want to fly those airliners. I’m not buying new stuff for 2020 (unless it happens to come with a 2024-compatible or native version), but I’m still happy to go fly the planes I love!
To get these aircraft you are bemoaning you are missing out on of course. Got both sims and will continue with that until such a point as one becomes the clear platform of choice. Always planned to do this with the expectation that there were always going to be issues. So no surprises for me.
I think there’s a difference between “FS2024-compatible” and “FS2024-native.”
Devs can make their aircraft compatible, but they won’t use the new SDK, and won’t have the feature set of a 2024 native model. An example is the Bonanza G36 Improvement Project. I added the FS20 version to my FS24 Community folder, and it (mostly) works fine. A few things, like nav lights, don’t work, but that’s a small roadblock - one that points out a difference in the SDK.
As Nikita said, some devs have worked to make their 2020 aircraft compatible in 2024 - to varying degrees of success, I think - because they need the income. But those aircraft are not ‘designed’ to be FS2024 aircraft (which by their nature will NOT be usable in FS2020.
I recently bought the Piaggio P180, which is an FS2020-only aircraft.
I’m taking it on faith that I will be able to upgrade to the FS2024 version when it’s released (hopefully for free, but if it’s a small fee I’ll pay it.)
I’m waiting for the Bluebird 757 to be released as a native FS2024 model.
It will still be a while before we see native 2024 aircraft become the norm. The 2020 compatible with 2024 updates are certainly fine and enables us to carry on while we all wait for the new sim to be worthy.