Yes I agree. But my broader point was to the people who were not here in '20 or even back in 2005-06 (FS2004/FSX) that this sort of transition isn’t unusual.
But like I said, I agree with you that this time it was unwarranted. The SDK should have been out to all well beforehand, not just inibuilds and a few other 1st-party creators. I realize two reasons why that didn’t happen, 1) they rightly wanted to create new content (career, etc.) and features (lighting, etc.) to grow the userbase and those new features were higher priority than writing the SDK, and 2) they had deadlines from above that they shouldn’t have had (release in the year 2024), but then…that’s a whole other thread we’ve already had here in the MSFS forums, isn’t it.
Indeed, AS said everything will work, and they were wrong.
I don’t feel for these two devs who missed out on the entire 2024 market, and all it would’ve taken was a little extra work to make it compatible with FS2024. That’s their decision, too bad on them. There are multitudes of other great planes in 2024.
As far as PMDG and Ifly go, it would be a terrible business decision not to port their products over to 2024. Give them some time, I’m sure they’re working on it. I personally am exclusively using 2020, probably for the next few months still, and I am missing out on those default Inibuilds planes and the highly-detailed version of the A350. I would love to fly an A330, I never got the chance in any other sim. And I’m happy that I will be at least be getting a stripped-down A350, but I would certainly rather the highest details. Don’t feel bad that you’re “stuck” with the latest tech.
I am waiting (a tad impatiently, though) for FS2024 to reach my standard for airline ops, which 2020 is now. I don’t need highly detailed trees or 4,000-polygon ground textures to fly an airliner. I need stability and variety of compatible planes, and right now its just Fenix and Inibuilds, and the FBW A380.
I agree with all your points, and I am not really blaming the devs. I am saying Asobo should of not let this happen or thought about it better, even delaying it as looking at MSFS 2024’s reputation it would of probably made sense. I also fly in XP and the amount of people posting on Reddit and in the XP Forums saying they have jumped over to XP is ever growing, I am sure they will come back but everything from lack of planes, feeling milked, let down, calling it “Loading Screen Simulator” etc and to be honest I find that sad and somewhat disingenuous.
I know the dev’s are working things but they have had essentially a 3 month wait and still going, that’s on Asobo, if they had an SDK in advance and were actually involved from the outset we would probably have all our add-ons back be that free or paid upgrades and they would of probably found lots of bugs too. I think many are not wanting all the Native stuff immediately but a working as was in 2020 version would be good with the option to pay for native versions is fine.
On the other hand it is possible to make planes for 2024 as is clear and I dont get why many are waiting, I wont be buying any of them now as I will probably of moved on to other stuff or busy flying the add-ons I just got back via updates, I have a strong feeling we wont see PMDG/iFly until late in the year and without blaming the devs that is just terrible.
Yup, a cheap job by Asobo. I believe they were under pressure from MS to get it out by Nov 19 and that’s why no one got SDK access, no Marketplace, and there are so many things worse than 2020 like time accel etc. Sad because it did have true potential, but no one is immune to the lure of money. Pushing off the release would’ve made a whole lot of people quite angry, so they chose to release an insectarium that would bring in instant money and would be worked on for years to come.
No it has not always been like this. Example XP 11 to XP 12 updates for Toliss etc were out within days even before hand. XP 12 was released on the 16th Sept 2022
Here is the date I bought the Upgrade, Before XP12’s release
It is not always like this.
Here is my upgrade for the Toliss A321 - the neo addon was a free update
The A340 just worked anyway as it was made near the end of XP11 life, but it was updated quickly and for free.
I could go on. It is not always like this, but it requires thought, communication and collaboration
MS/Asobo really messed up with the developers!! They should have shared the SDK with more devs early on. Access to the SDK clearly was a huge benefit to IniBuilds who now has a bit of a competitive advantage–especially with aircraft. They are kind of the only ones pumping out higher quality planes and airports for 2024 now.
They knew what the popular addons were–so not working with folks like PMDG (and others) earlier in the game was a huge miss. Especially, given their public pledges that compatibility would be there.
Let’s be correct here. They said “Almost everything will work”. That means that there were always going to be some that fall outside of that. I’m not suggesting that they even met that statement across all the add-ons but that was it.
Do users who have made the jump to 2024 and uninstalled 2020 not realise it is a reversable decision? You didn’t burn the bridge, you just stopped using it and can use it again!
Yes, but that’s just Steam, when you factor in GamePass users, many of whom may not be hardcore simmers, the numbers using 2024 are probably much higher.
Didn’t Jorg say on one of the dev streams that there are more people playing 2024 career mode than 2020 users? (or something to that effect)
You must be totally unaware that there are a ton of people reporting the same thing as SSB, MSFS 2024 is working well enough for many of us that MSFS 2020 is becoming a sideshow, yes there are bugs like pressurized planes that don’t pressurize, but I have probably only flown 5 times in 2020 since '24 came out, because '24 works perfectly fine for me, and it really is that much better than 2020.
