I’m toying with the idea of upgrading my current GPU from a 4070ti Super to a 4090 which I’m looking at a used Founders edition.
At the moment I use MSFS2020 on a 4K monitor & also dabble in & out of 2024 but 95% of the time its in MSF2020.
Also, Most of my flight simming very recently is being done in VR using a quest 3 headset.
Would there be much of a noticeable difference going from a 4070ti Super to a 4090 both in 4K & VR?
Even second hand the 4090 is still a pricey card well for me anyway but as this is my hobby I’m willing for my wallet to take a bit of a hit. Just wondered if anyone else made a similar jump on their GPU.
Just to add my current CPU is a 7800x3d on a X670E Motherboard. PSU is 850w & 32gb Ram.
I have not made that jump, myself. I’m just going to share with you my opinion, but it’s okay to completely ignore this
Remark : I own a 4090, but I do no VR in MSFS2024.
You’d probably see some nice improvement, a few FPS, and some settings you could pass from High to Ultra, for example.
But I wouldn’t expect a revolution. Usually, a good rule of thumb with NVidia is to upgrade by jumping one generation. Go from 2xxx to 4xxx, 3xxx to 5xxxx. Going from a 4070 to a 4090 will give you nothing regarding DLSS (both have access to the same DLSS version), and the 4070TiS, if I’m not wrong, have 16GB VRAM, where a 4090 Founder will have 24GB. Which is a big improvement (+50%), but I’d not expect a great revolution.
Regarding the rule of thumb I mentionned before, while NVidia is in the process of releasing the 5xxx series, that may change; but in my case, and because the cost is not null, I’ll look at it twice.
I’m very interested in others opinions about VR, also. I’m not using VR at all in 2024, and I don’t know how much the 8GB VRAM and other bits would affect VR.
Same specs as me with my recent build 4070ti super / 7800x3d / x670e. This isn’t relevant to your question, but do you mind me asking what kind of the main graphical settings you settled on with your spec.
I’m fiddling a lot currently trying to get the best out of my system. Interested in particular what you use for TLOD/OLOD, hight/ultra settings?
The specs are what they are, you just have to decide if the additional costs of the upgrade are worth it for you.
Generally speaking and depending on the scenario (RT or rasterization) the 4090 will give you roughly around 50-60 % more fps and will also provide more headroom in VRAM which will definitely be utilized in modern demanding games.
But you also have to be aware of the fact that the price increase is not linear once you go for the best of the best products. If you want the BEST, you have to pay big money for it.
Also be aware of the massive increase in power consumption. In a benchmark stress test the 4090 stock can consume up to 500 watts while the 4070 ti super will only consume around 320 watts. Depending on your energy prices you also need to take this into account.
In games the power consumption will be lower though. Anyway, due to the high power efficiency of the 4090 you can safely undervolt the card, which will vastly decrease power consumption while actually allowing higher average clock speeds over time. Depending on the actual card, you can reduce power consumption by 20-25% with hardly any loss in performance, if you do it right.
Since you are asking for opinions, as a 4090 owner i think the 4000 series is totally overprized and a slap in the face of consumers. But if you need to buy a 4000 series card and you wanna play 4K, the 4090 is the way to go (if you can afford it). If the 4070 super would have 16 GB RAM, it would be number one for best value for money and an uber card for 1440p..
Change your ram to 64gb and sell your 32 for a few bucks back, wait out 5000 series availability to become so saturated that 4090’s drop in price. 4070ti Super is a pretty stout GPU. You’ll probably be good to go for 5+ years of MSFS (both versions) with just a bump in ram.
Main setting to never use on ultra is texture resolution, keep it on high. It’s messed up and over taxiing especially if you’re using 3rd party adds with various mixed resolution textures. You can’t even ‘see’ what it supposedly improves-even on a 55" in your face at 4K. And 2024 is beta at best, I wouldn’t chase it too much with hardware just yet, you’re right in the meat-and-potatoes of a high-end system. From what I’ve seen with 2024, I’d be surprised if any sense of the ‘full potential’ is realized in 2025 at all, and THEN they’ll find optimizations like 2020 has now, with all it’s issues over 4 years, it’s running exceptionally well now. Being it HAS to work on XBSX, they will have to continue to optimize and your PC is more than qualified for it when they get it eventually sorted. I don’t get any sense of ‘hardware limitations’ in 24, it all looks like bad code, including when they let us have ‘real textures’ for a while before they dumbed it down to go on break.
As I tend to fiddle with settings a fair bit I’ve settled on DLSS -Quality, TLOD=150 & OLOD=150
set the same for both monitor or VR. Some other graphics settings in VR ive toned down comparted to if flying on just the Monitor. For VR I use Virtual desktop.
Thanks for all replies guys very much appreciated. Yep think I’m going to hold off at the moment & just up my Ram to 64.
When I built my PC I originally wanted a 4090 GPU but couldn’t stretch to it at the time & the 4070Ti super was right on my Budget.
Will see if some used ones come down in price as the newer 5000 series takes hold.
I also didn’t realize there’s apparently another run on GPU’s and jacking prices again. Everything costs MORE than it did a year ago. RAM is still reasonable. I would say 24 really needs that 64gb, but for some reason it helps 20 as well.
I went from 3080ti to a 4090 and it was a big upgrade. However, I didn’t see any difference when I had the 12700 cpu. the 4090 was only at about 45% load. I upgraded my 12700 to a 14900 and now the GPU is at 98% almost always when gaming. I have 790 msi mb, 64gb ram. DDR5. I get 100+ fps on my 5120x1440 monitor with FS24.
