Monster racing support livery.
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All I can say is wow , great liveries!
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Picked it up today, as currently, I am basically flying choppers only.
I didn’t expect much but boy was I surprised.
It flies really well, is rather stable, textures and systems depth is quite good.
At first glance it ranks fourth in my stable.
Lama, H145, H160, MD-530F, Bell 47, Cowan H125. All of those are worth the purchase.
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I’ve recently started getting far left “engine out” warning light on this, beeping away, but it seems fine otherwise. Any clues as to what might be triggering that and how to turn it off? I’m not doing anything crazy, just “normal” flight and it gets triggered.
As there’s no documentation it’s a little hard to figure out what not to do.
I tried flying this the other day (first time since the sim update) and now it doesn’t want to get or stay airborne… I’ve flown this many times previously from cold and dark without issue, and I’m not doing anything differently now.
I had no problem flying it. Make sure you have a helicopter preset.
The Engine Out warning beeping is really annoying though.
I was hot starting on the runway, which is supposed to be ok, and wasn’t overstressing the engine (damage is off anyway).
Will try some more tests.
PC Version
I also recently purchased this addon to compare it to Asobo and Cowan helicopter dynamics, and I have experienced the engine out warning too. Also, I have previously avoided Shrike products, since they are directed primarily at “gaming entertainment”.
One thing is for certain… Although I prefer “Higher Fidelity” Blackbird Simulations type addons, I will no longer specifically avoid Shrike products. This MD-530F is the most fun helicopter I own (I own all Cowan, Flyinside, and Hype helicopters)
In investigating my issue with the engine out, it seems that this is the one helicopter that I really have to pay attention to the “T’s & P’s”. My issue was that flying it like an Asobo or Cowan addon “normally” would cause my Oil and Transmission temperatures to exceed the green. My engine would eventually shut down mid flight.
The solution for me is to slighly lower my power setting (overly sensitive collective at the higher end of the power settings) to keep my Oil and Transmission temps within normal operating green arcs. A 1mm change too much in collective power setting causes a large jump in engine stress (temperatures) for me.
I had originally thought this addon would fly more like a “fun to fly” addon since it was Shrike, and it does exactly that. However, it has prompted me to actually pay attention and make the “T’s & P’s” checks for all helicopter addons I fly - like I see in IRL YouTube helicopter training videos. Even if there is some bug causing the engine shutdown issue, this addon gave me a good reason to seriously scan my instrument temperatures, something I don’t really have to do with even Flyinside or Hype addons (as there are other feedback indicators) that seem to help me avoid overtemps while my eyes are still outside the cockpit.
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It’s definitely great fun to fly.
Thanks for the input, I’ll keep that in mind as I do some more testing, see if I can consistently replicate and nail the trigger point. I could well be going over the limits, but as they are not explained it’s a mistake easily made!
I just wish even for their “cheapo” brand they would provide a little flight documentation. It doesn’t do their brand justice when they release a great flying product but skimp on the overall delivery package, which should include even some basic documentation.
They even know this is an issue themselves, but haven’t bothered to rectify it.
From the BB forum: "A few people didn’t know these 2 bindings to control the governor on the 530F (since there is no manual, it may not be obvious) "
Sure, documentation takes time and effort but it adds to the product image quality out the gate, and it’s better than having the info spread over multiple channels that you have to hunt n’ peck to find, and repeatedly get asked the same questions!
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Well, at least for PC users, there is an included pdf document in the folder that explains the key binding. And I 188% agree with you regarding having to search and join a Developers Discord, Forum, or other media to figure out how an addon works - or doesn’t seem to be working.
Even though the current Developer customer communication model is less than ideal, I don’t know what a better customer communication solution could be (as Content Creator YouTube videos have been acceptable to me in lieu of documentation). I typically only peruse the MSFS forum. The most valuable part of MSFS is the community itself.
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It seems to be the gen switch which is triggering it.
Even doing Shift-Ctrl-E/Ctrl-E doesn’t seem to work anymore.
Not sure what’s up. Maybe SU14?
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Wow,
I would have never identified that cause. I only engage the GEN switch after startup on the ground, and it stays engaged until I finish a flight on shutdown. Also, I only purchased this addon after SU14, so I have no idea how it handled before SU14.
Are you verifying that your throttle (twist) is fully open with the governor engaged? My first thought is that if you try to fly with low rpm, that would probably cause the engine to overstress from MP/torque settings that the rotor and transmission are not prepared for.
My bad, gen switch isn’t the cause, it’s just turning the warning on/off.
The engine out warning is related to engine trim RPM
If you have this too low, you’ll get engine out once you start using the throttle/collective, which seems to be what you are saying here?
There’s no direct readout it seems, but setting it to a touch below 70 on the bottom right percent RPM dial (and ~10 on the torque pis 2 dials above it) on lowest throttle/collective setting (ie: no throttle) seems a sweet spot (see image).
Any less the Engine out warning comes on fairly quick when you start flying.
Maybe the engine trim rpm is being reset on CtrlE/Shift Ctrl E which is the actual root cause, as it should be set at a position more conducive to a flight profile?
Hard to know as there’s no flight documentation! IANACP (I am not a chopper pilot, so buy these things to learn about this, not assume I know it already).
If the engine out warning comes on, now I just increase the Engine trim rpm till it goes out/off. Solved!
I have these binds on my T16000M
I don’t have any issues flying choppers with a twist rudder, even on linear settings.
It’s good fine touch training, a bit like STOL.
Ah, I should have specified “Main” rotor to avoid confusion with “Tail” rotor in my previous post. I was referring to the throttle twist setting, which the main rotor rpm is directly tied too.
Once I set the throttle to max and engage the governor on the ground, I’ve never had to adjust it. Like you, I am learning about helicopter controls and the resulting expected flight dynamics. I haven’t learned yet when adjusting main rotor rpm and collective trim is beneficial to achieving a specific performance or handling objective/need.
No worries. Issue solved, and I learned some more about it.
Definitely my favorite chopper in MSFS, once you figure it out.
Seems the engine trim is as important as the rotor trims, which makes sense! haha!
Some useful info here, even though it’s not the same features: https://milviz.com/Online_products/Manuals/MV_MD530F.pdf
its now getting toward the middle of february, this helo is still unuseable. shrike are still selling it and not addressing the issue… so i suggest just boycott any future purchases from shrike.. theres nothng else can be done with a dev who are just not interested in either repairinfg their model or communications.. ive actually just deleted it.. and moved on (the cowansim is far better…it actually flies)
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What is the issue? I don’t fly the 530F too often, but last time a few weeks ago it was okay. Have scrolled up a bit in this thread and couldn’t find anything dramatic.
Please be more specific about your issue other than “it’s broken” because I flew it a few days ago and had a perfectly smooth and fine flight from cold and dark. Doesn’t seem broken to me.
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I believe when most folks complain about a helicopter issue, it boils down to a controller issue, or not knowing how a helicopter works.
I just tried the 530F and no problems.
But @choonzy: BBS/Shrike released an update for the 530F at the beginning of February, now at version 1.0.2. I don’t know if it will make any difference, but did you get that update?
As its from marketplace isuspect it will be another 200 years until they release an update.
Hopefully it will eadress the apparent engine rpm trim issues that are nigh on impossible to get set right and reliably.
In my case ive moved onto the cowansim 500 which performs without frustration
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